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#1 Jul 14 2012 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
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This might be one of the most annoying things out their but i need help to build a desktop in prep for the 2.0 release......i have no idea what i am doing but have done enough research to know that buying from newegg is most likely the best idea as cyber/ibuy is crap (from what i have read). I also feel confident in my technical skills that i can put one together i just have no idea what components are compatible with one another. If you could help i would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance my budget is around $600-750. I have built one on newegg but have no idea if it is complete http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx Have i overspent, could i save on some things or is it even plausible to do this build????
#2 Jul 14 2012 at 12:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Your link goes to your local shopping cart, which is only local to your computer. We can't unfortunatly see any of the components you have selected that way. Your best bet would be to paste the individual newegg component links here.

$750 is a bit on the low side for a gaming PC assuming you are starting from scratch and are also purchasing the $130 operating system out of that amount, but it is possible. I can put together a list of compoenets that will work, but I'd like to see what you selected first, particularily to see if you were leaning towards AMD or intel, Nvidia or ATI for graphics, etc.
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#3 Jul 14 2012 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh thanks for the heads up:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962
Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
CD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136247
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

Honestly though i have never done this before so i am really just making sure i have all necessary components as well as the fact that they will all go together.....any help will be much appreciated. I am sure there are some things i am perhaps overspending on as well as the other way around but from what i have read FFXIV has been really strenuous on some computers and would like this to work as best as it can with in my budget.

also to me it does not matter what brand components i am using because i dont know too much about them....

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 3:55pm by Htown561
#4 Jul 14 2012 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
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That board and CPU are not the same slot type. Also, you should really consider nVidia graphics. Ditch the case too, I hear terrible things about Rosewill cases. You might want to consider a smaller, but faster HD. For a real gaming PC, you should grab a larger PSU, 750+.
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#5 Jul 14 2012 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
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I was bored and decided to piece something together, following your price points per component.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119249
Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127573
HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136797
Optical: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136247
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153126

I used the CPU, RAM, and optical drive you listed. $715.92 + shipping. I'm no Kao, but this is the way I would kind of go if I were building. Personally I'd ditch the AMD for Intel.

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 11:27pm by Kastigir
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#6 Jul 14 2012 at 11:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for the help a couple of questions really for my own knowledge.....
1. Why do you suggest i go intel vs AMD (seeing as im not attached to either and know very little)
2. Why smaller faster hard drive what are the benefits and how do i know if one hard drive is faster than another
3. GPU any reason for the change or is it just personal preference

Also i have heard really good things about corsair as well as the toughpower thermaltake (all in my limited lack of knowledge "research", if you can call it that)

Help has been much appreciated Kao and Kast so thank you
#7 Jul 15 2012 at 2:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I tend to prefer Intel myself, but for the price point you are looking at hitting, AMD isn't a bad compromise. Intel processors are going to be overall faster, AMD processors are faster at certain lower price points. I would agree with the motherboard Kastigir listed there too. That second hard drive Kastigir listed has a much higher onboard cache, so it will be effectivly faster. The one you had listed isn't a bad choice either though. The first thing to look at for hard drives is type. there are solid state, and there are rotational. Solid state drives are going to be faster than your rotational drives in most cases. They are also very expensive and smaller. In rotational drives, the main differences are rotational speed, and size of cache. Most drives are 7200 RPM with about 8-16MB cache.Some "green" low energy drives spin at 5400 rpm or even much slower. these are to be avoided like the plague. The more cache the drive has, the faster it will be able to load larger files. Western digital is always a good drive vendor choice. Corsair is also a good choice for the ram and power supply, though thermaltake is also good. The extra wattage might help in certain situations, but for what you are building, I'd actually go with the corsair power supply given the price difference in that particular case.

You'll also need the operating system license. Windows 8 is crap, don't bother buying it. Get windows 7 Professional 64 bit OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992) 64 bit to allow you to use more than 3GB ram.

Which brings us to the case. Rosewill cases are ****. They are poorly made, of low quality materials, and tend to have very sharp bits on the inside that make installing computer components a nightmare. I'd advise you to pick any one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=50001333%2040000007&Tpk=cooler%20master%20case%7cmaster%20case over that one. I'd particularily reccommend the Cooler Master CM690 II as a very easy case to work with. Keep in mind of all the pieces of your computer, you will have the case longer than any of the others, so it makes sense to get a good one you can live with for 5 years at least.

ATI vs. Nvidia, the main advantage of the nvidia cards is that ATI drivers suck and aren't stable. The cards themselves are comparable.

Other than the rosewell case and the mismatched board, the build looks sound. Asus is the best company out there for motherboards, though Gigabyte, MSI and Abit also make decent ones. Never buy OCZ anything. If you look at solid state drives, Corsair, Crucial, Intel, Sandisk all make good, stable ones. For nvidia video cards, EVGA, PNY or XFX are the better manufacturers in terms of component stability and warranty support. Power supplies, Enermax is the best, but they are spendy. Antec, Thermaltake, Corsair are also good choices. Cases are really a matter of what style you like, but there are manufacturers to avoid, such as rosewill. Prefered case manufacturers include cooler master, thermaltake, antec, lian li, etc.
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#8 Jul 15 2012 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok so i dumped the case and added one of the cooler masters but i also might be able to dump it all together seeing as my cousin built a comp last year but has recently bought an imac and said i could have it and salvage what i can from it which will hopefully help me save some money on certain things to beef up other areas.....still waiting on a list of everything he has and should have that by the end of today but tentatively this is where im at if i will just build a new one:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119248 (actually like the orange)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962
(kept because price difference is like $100 for intel)
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754 (Kastigir recommended)
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136697
(wanted to see what you guys thought has double the gigs rather than the one Kastigir recommended but if it really isnt necessary for the price point then i can go back and change it)
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625 (went and looked around for an EVGA and i think this is comparable to the one Kastigir recommended)
Cd Drive: same as original
PSU + RAM same as my original

Hopefully i can get some stuff from my cousin so i can boost some other areas but for now this is it.....how well do you think it will play FFXIV
#9 Jul 15 2012 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good choice on the hard drive, bigger is always better, and for $6 more for double the capacity at the same cache size, thats a definite plus. GPU will definitly do the job and thats a good price for it.

I'd really encourage you to get one of the $79-$99ish cases. the toolless construction features mean you will spend about an hour less time assembling your computer, and they have better cable pathing. But, it's your build, so get what you like.
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#10 Jul 15 2012 at 9:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Yea i will definitely look into it (Better Case) but i will have a list of what i am getting tomorrow and perhaps you guys could help me figure out how to run it at a bit higher settings. He said it runs at lower settings but would like it to be a bit better or maybe even buying new parts would be a better idea anyways.
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