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#52 Apr 11 2012 at 10:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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#53 Apr 11 2012 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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...the origin of the bills did not represent the majority of the people, but merely the majority of the currently elected legislators, and therefore the signing was merely a symbolic gesture of "@#%^ you" to the people...


The same argument could be made against ObamaCare when Democrats controlled both Congress and the Presidency. Say what you will for or against ObamaCare, any legislation pushed through by only one political party is subject to greater criticism than those with bipartisan support.
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#54 Apr 11 2012 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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bipartisan support.

Is this even a thing anymore?

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#55 Apr 11 2012 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I know this isn't really the point, but I don't have an issue with tax money paying for abortions. It's a legal and sometimes necessary medical procedure, so I don't see why it's NOT covered by taxpayer funded plans like Medicare/caid.

It's a red herring anyway. The article itself agrees that it's keeping in line with the healthcare law and that the actual point of debate is the measure requiring private face-to-face meetings with physicians.


It's kinda not a red herring when so many people do say they think that abortions should be paid for though. Want to bet that if we were to ask 100 random folks supporting the recall of Walker what they think of that particular change to the law how many would talk about not allowing physicians to sign off on abortions over a web cam and how many would say something about "funding for reproductive services"? I mean, you really think people are in an uproar over requiring a doctor to be in the room with a patient in order to diagnose them and sign off on a procedure?
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#56 Apr 11 2012 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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I mean, you really think people are in an uproar over requiring a doctor to be in the room with a patient in order to diagnose them and sign off on a procedure?


Yes, I do. Because this has been a significant issue for quite some time, and it has been debated completely separate from money issues.
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I mean, you really think people are in an uproar over requiring a doctor to be in the room with a patient in order to diagnose them and sign off on a procedure?


Yes, I do. Because this has been a significant issue for quite some time, and it has been debated completely separate from money issues.


Strange. I don't recall ever hearing about it before this thread. Maybe I somehow missed that this was a major point of contention in our abortion laws? I mean, the right to have a consultation via web cam does seem to be really important. Oh wait... No. It really doesn't.
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#58 Apr 11 2012 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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Of course you didn't, you clearly don't get your news from anywhere.
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It's kinda not a red herring when so many people do say they think that abortions should be paid for though. Want to bet that if we were to ask 100 random folks supporting the recall of Walker what they think of that particular change to the law how many would talk about not allowing physicians to sign off on abortions over a web cam and how many would say something about "funding for reproductive services"? I mean, you really think people are in an uproar over requiring a doctor to be in the room with a patient in order to diagnose them and sign off on a procedure?

Want to bet I can make up hypothetical red herring arguments that neither of us can prove and declare myself the winner as well? Smiley: laugh
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#60 Apr 11 2012 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Of course you didn't, you clearly don't get your news from anywhere.


I get information from a variety of sources and form my own opinions. And this is honestly the very first time I've ever heard that this was even remotely significant. I don't believe we've ever discussed it on this forum. Have we? So how could it be that this is so much more important than other aspects like funding, parental approval for minors, late term abortion rules, etc, and yet it's garnered so little (or no) discussion?

Sounds more likely that someone is grasping for some reason to oppose this particular law that *isnt'* a reason in direct opposition to Obama's own statements about the right of the states to not health care dollars to fund abortion. Call me crazy, but when someone downplays the argument that everyone usually talks about and focuses instead on something completely different, I get a bit suspicious that they're just trying to change the subject.


Um... But for the record, does anyone actually think it's a good idea to allow doctors to sign off on medical procedures after only meeting the patient via web cam? Ignore the abortion angle for a moment and think about this. I get this in a case where you need to consult with a specialist and you're in some third world country or something and telepresence is necessary. But this just smacks of contrived issue.
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And this is honestly the very first time I've ever heard that this was even remotely significant. I don't believe we've ever discussed it on this forum. Have we?

Have we ever discussed Wisconsin state abortion laws on this forum, period? I'm guessing no.
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And this is honestly the very first time I've ever heard that this was even remotely significant. I don't believe we've ever discussed it on this forum. Have we?

Have we ever discussed Wisconsin state abortion laws on this forum, period? I'm guessing no.


We've discussed the issue of abortion many many times though. I don't recall the right to have a doctor sign off on one via web cam ever coming up though. Do you? So how significant can this really be, in Wisconsin or elsewhere?
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#64 Apr 11 2012 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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Is gbaji actually measuring the significance of an issue by whether or not we've discussed it here?
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#66 Apr 11 2012 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Well, good job running with the goalposts, anyway.


Says the guy who's insisting that an issue that has been at the center of the abortion issue (funding with tax dollars) isn't really that important, but some other issue that almost no one has mentioned or taken notice before is what it's really all about. I think I'm just putting the goal posts back where they used to be.
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#67 Apr 11 2012 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, good job running with the goalposts, anyway.


Says the guy who's insisting that an issue that has been at the center of the abortion issue (funding with tax dollars) isn't really that important, but some other issue that almost no one has mentioned or taken notice before is what it's really all about. I think I'm just putting the goal posts back where they used to be.


You haven't heard of it = "almost no one has"

That's pretty funny.

Tell me this--how often do you frequent news sites oriented towards women's or feminist issues? You know, the kind of sites that cater specifically to the groups of people most affected by these types of laws?

Yeah, didn't think you did. Clearly no one cares about these issues. Just like no one cares about equal pay.
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Says the guy who's insisting that an issue that has been at the center of the abortion issue (funding with tax dollars) isn't really that important, but some other issue that almost no one has mentioned or taken notice before is what it's really all about.

Right. The issue has never been about access to abortion (and barriers put up by the GOP) but only ever about tax-payer funding Smiley: laugh
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bipartisan support.

Is this even a thing anymore?

I don't know, but I've just found out why "Fly-Over State" is a thing.
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#70 Apr 11 2012 at 11:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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My bad, but very funny!!!
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#71 Apr 12 2012 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
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My bad, but very funny!!!


It is Gbaji, so it wouldn't be surprising.
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