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#52 Apr 19 2012 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
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Well, he is a bit of a doofus, but he's not a moron like she seems to think. There was one argument between the two of them not too long ago where he protested that he was smart because to be a Templar you had to have a pretty extensive education. It's essentially the same as the sisters for the Chantry go through. I think that's a pretty fair assessment. I do love the antics between the two of them though. I'm not generally a big fan of conflict, but the conflict between them is pretty funny. Oh and once you develop a relationship with Alistair, and you talk to Morrigain, her responses are pretty funny. She makes a comment about how she doesn't get what I see in him because he's such an idiot. One of the options is to reply, "He may be an idiot, but he's my idiot." I picked that one. Smiley: grin It gave me a good chuckle.


Smiley: lol

Yeah Morrigan's and Alistair's interactions have to be about my favorite so far. The two personalities just bounce off of each other so well it's entertaining to watch. Admittedly Alistair is growing on me the more time I spend around him. I'm not sure if that's due to anything he's doing, or if it's simply the fact the only other male romance option recently tried to kill me. Smiley: rolleyes

Though I'll have to romance him and talk to Morrigan now. That sounds like fun. Smiley: grin


As a woman you can romance Leliana too.
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#53 Apr 19 2012 at 8:13 PM Rating: Excellent
Oh I know. I tried going that route, but I screwed something up with her once Alistair started developing feelings for me. I was trying to do the thing where you say you'll talk to the other person, then you let them down gently so they're still in love with you, but then stay with the other person. That got messed up, and Leliana went from almost being in love with me, to now being "friendly." So I think I'll have to use one of the special gifts to get her affection lower and see if I can get her interested in me again.

Ultimately what I'm trying to do for my ending is become queen, but have Leliana still in love with me, so she'll stay on as my mistress. From what I've read, if you harden Alistair and he loves you, he will want to make you queen no matter if you're a human noble or not. And if you harden Leliana, she's willing to be your mistress. So, we'll see.

I'll have to keep that thing about Oghren in mind. I'm using Alistair as my tank, Leliana as a bard/ranger archer for picking chests and undoing traps, my character as the DD mage, and Morrigan as my healer. So I don't know that I actually have room to have him in my party, but I guess I could beef up my character's healing spells once I get all her damage spells finished, so she can heal instead.
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#54 Apr 19 2012 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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If you haven't yet, get Crushing Prison. On Morrigan too. That's easily the best standard spell tree in the game. You'll waste one point on one of the mages with Telekinetic Weapons, but it would literally be worth spending 4 points just to get CP, even if you didn't get anything else.

Toss that on the Mage and the Leader of the group, laugh as you pick off all the minions in the meantime. When they unfreeze, force field the leader and then burn down the mage.

Congratulations, you should never die again.
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#55 Apr 20 2012 at 12:08 AM Rating: Good
I've thought about it, but the blood mage guide on gamefaqs says it's not worth it once you get blood wound. So far in this game, with how many neat items I have, I have a much less harder time staying alive. If I start having problems again though, I'll pick up Crushing Prison. As of right now, Morrigan has the first two spells in that tree, so it shouldn't take too long to pick it up.

Oh and protein, I don't like Jowan, does that count? =x I haven't gotten Oghren or Shale yet, so I can't comment on them. Wynne is pretty cool for the most part. She does seem a bit preachy sometimes, but I know she means well. Sten kind of bores me, but I'll admit that his comment about how awesome cookies are made me giggle. I guess thus far, none of the companions really bother me. I wouldn't say I genuinely like all of them, but I don't dislike any.
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#56 Apr 20 2012 at 5:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I loved Sten. He approves of you when you yell at him. Smiley: laugh

The only way I've been able to keep both Alistair and either Zev or Leliana on the side is to not have the "omg I love you" talk with Alistair until the Landsmeet, and then not talk to your lover in camp until after the coronation.
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#57 Apr 20 2012 at 7:32 AM Rating: Good
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How come I'm struck with Ohgren now that I'm into Awakenings? And is there something wrong with providing me with a **** tank?
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#58 Apr 20 2012 at 7:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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I need to play Awakenings. I tried once and got offended that the people from Origins acted as though they vaguely remembered me as the kid who delivered their newspapers or something as opposed to the leader who fundamentally changed their lives.
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How come I'm struck with Ohgren now that I'm into Awakenings? And is there something wrong with providing me with a **** tank?
You'll get one. Justice makes a great tank, iirc.
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How come I'm struck with Ohgren now that I'm into Awakenings? And is there something wrong with providing me with a **** tank?


Go to the marsh area if you want to recruit a tank.
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Go to the marsh area if you want to recruit a tank.
So far, my options are some dude's fields, a cove and Amarinthe. The little harlot that accompanied me earlier on went and got herself pwned by a goblet.
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#62 Apr 20 2012 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
Do you guys customize your tactics pages or use one of the built in ones? So far I've been using the built in ones, which mostly work, but I'm wondering if taking some time and actually building my own is worth it or not.
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I usually tweak the existing ones, mainly to add in a "Use poultice on X% health" line and as they get new powers (especially for casters). Leliana I set to pure ranged as opposed to default which has her rushing into melee all too often.
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#64 Apr 20 2012 at 9:26 AM Rating: Excellent
I did tweak the healing settings, as the default healing setup for wynne seemed to be mainly about healing herself, and occasionally healing other party members if they were really close to death.
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Do you guys customize your tactics pages or use one of the built in ones? So far I've been using the built in ones, which mostly work, but I'm wondering if taking some time and actually building my own is worth it or not.


No so much so far; I'd be curious to know what other people do though. Smiley: grin

Mostly I'll take the default and edit it. So things like "target nearest enemy" will get changed to "target of <tank>" or something similar. I'll usually up health<25% to health <50% on heal so I don't get too nervous, or get crushed when my healer gets knocked down or stunned or something.

Like I mentioned in my rant in the BDT I've pretty much taken most of my CC spells off of the tactics lists. Morrigan was set as a "controller" for me for the longest time, but the logic behind what she was doing was getting on my nerves. So I set her to "damage" and just CC manually now. I'm not sure that's really the best way to do it, but it's a temporary solution at least. Smiley: frown
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I set them to the default tactics slot settings, such as archer, healer, etc. Then I change to either ranged/aggressive leave most of those action slots alone, but might change something. Much like Joph, with Polstice/Lyrium. Not a big fan of most of the rogue specializations so went with Beastmaster and made sure calling those were on there.
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I set Morrigan to cast Sleep on clusters of 4+ and that seemed to work well. Other CC abilities like Paralyze or Petrify I'd do manually as needed. I kept Mass Paralyze as manual as well just so she didn't fire it off needlessly given its slow refresh time.
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Yeah, I like to play more defensively with my healers, so I change the healing tactics so that Wynne will toss out her spells earlier.

I also remove the regen spells, and I like to manually manage group heal.

Heroic Offense I manually manage, for burning, but Heroic Defense is set up to keep up with the tank.
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#69 Apr 20 2012 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
Like most everyone else, I tweak them. Alistair's are pretty much fine. I just stick him on aggressive so he charges in and makes sure to go after all the things. Leliana and Morrigan I keep on ranged so they stick near me. Morrigan's spells and stuff I've tweaked with a bit, just to make her a better healer and all. She doesn't deal with CC at all. Me being a blood mage and all, affliction hex + blood wound works just find in that capacity.
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Morrigan healing never sat well with me. I've given her the first rank heal spell before just as back up in case Wynne bites it or isn't in the party but I always focused her on Entropy and then some various DD/CC abilities.
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#71 Apr 20 2012 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
Morrigan amuses me. Plus, if you get the mod that allows you to respec people, she can be just as good a healer as Wynne. She may suffer in the mana regen department, but her heals pack more oomph. That's based on the skills they get via reputation of course. Now, when I play through the game at a later date as a rogue, I will probably have them both in their default roles.
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Oh, I'm not worried about her skills. Personality-wise and within the game, I can't see her as a healer. When I have her as my sole caster, I rely on poultices, adequate CC and overwhelming displays of brute force.
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#73 Apr 20 2012 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
That is a very valid point. When you're in the village of Haven, and you find Brother Genitivi in the back room of the Chantry, and my character turned to Morrigan and asked her if she could do anything to help, I was a bit like "Huh? Oh yeah, she's my healer."
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I usually just give Morrigan whatever the first healing spell is and set her to use when people hit 25% or below, but I've never set her up as a main healer. If I wasn't too lazy to bother with making potions and stuff, I wouldn't even bother giving her that one healing spell.
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The dog goes after the nearest caster, or attacks anything attacking the healer. Mages and melees attack the tank's target, everyone uses health or mana potions as needed (about 30% except for hard fights or the end game when I bump health potion use up to 50%).

And yeah, mages and Leliana are ranged, and I disable Leliana's melee stun.

There's more but I can't think of them right now.
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Heh, I never surrendered before after the rescue. Always just fought my way out (usually painfully and repeatedly until success). Never realized I was missing out on a little side jaunt that way.
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Oh! After "Rescue the Queen"? Yeah, you can go one of two ways if you surrender, but one is *really* buggy.
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I always fight my way out. Just doesn't feel like my Warden to sit in the cell and wait.
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You don't have to wait. You can surrender, then sneak out dressed as guards after a fairly amusing side quest. Or you can surrender and THEN fight your way out, if you prefer.
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Yeah, that's the one. I used to always just punch faces until I left the estate.

I went the "surrender, lure the guard in with offers of tawdry sex, beat him up and sneak out dressed as guards" way this time. Was an amusing diversion.
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Oh, I've surrendered to Ser C... whatever her name is. I've also fought. But I've never waited for a rescue party in the prison.
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I did that once, and it was hilarious. But it only worked for me that one time; every subsequent attempt was so badly bugged I had to restore from a save and go a different route. If/when it works, you get to choose two companions to come and save you, and depending on which two you choose the dialog is pretty great. (Oghren and Zev are Orlesian acrobats come to entertain the troops, for example, or Leliana and Morrigan are bards. You play as them while your "hero" sits daintily in the cell, but eventually you all join up and fight your way back out.
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I think I made a real save point right before the rescue. I'll have to go back at some point and play with the options.
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Haha again. After several playthroughs, last night I just noticed that there's a ballista during the final fight with the archdemon so you can pepper him with fire rather than pinking him with arrows and spells until he returns to the fight.

Derp derp derp....
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There are three or four.

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Haha again. After several playthroughs, last night I just noticed that there's a ballista during the final fight with the archdemon so you can pepper him with fire rather than pinking him with arrows and spells until he returns to the fight.

Derp derp derp....
You're talking about DA the original now versus DA2?

Cuz this is the fight I remember from Origins. I used the ballistas whenever the beasty was in range. I did the entire fight ranged which really made the final dragon-slaying cut scene look ridiculous. The final fight with the Archdemon was easy compared to some of the other battles.

I just rolled up DA again over the weekend. I'm being a she-dwarf Rogue. I'm gonna work on endearing myself to Sven (he's a tough nut to crack!). I'm already having difficulty though with Zathrian in his final encounter vs the werewolves - at least i quit last night after about my 4th unsuccessful attempt. Two tanks doesn't seem to provide me with enough damage. Alistair is gonna have to go.


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Haha again. After several playthroughs, last night I just noticed that there's a ballista during the final fight with the archdemon so you can pepper him with fire rather than pinking him with arrows and spells until he returns to the fight.

Derp derp derp....


LOL, yeah. I always save the elves or mages for the Archdemon, and then use the Ballistas during his ranged phase. Works well--the squishies stay out of the dragon's AoE range (though fall to the soldiers if I don't pick them off), and can attack from afar when he flies to the other platform.
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Save the elves and mages? I think I used one of those armies the entire time and only 3/50 died, so i just spammed them during the final fight. I could barely tell there were enemy soldiers in the area.
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I cleverly managed to both destroy the Circle and slaughter the elves this run so my final fight army selection was pretty melee limited. My Templars had bows but didn't seem especially skilled with them. In retrospect, I believe the Redcliffe guys have bows as well but it was no big deal.

Anyway, the big lizard died easily enough aside from the game crashing the first time I jumped on his head for the final blow and having to re-do the battle.
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I cleverly managed to both destroy the Circle and slaughter the elves this run so my final fight army selection was pretty melee limited. My Templars had bows but didn't seem especially skilled with them. In retrospect, I believe the Redcliffe guys have bows as well but it was no big deal.
I seem to recall using Storm of the Century(or whatever that combo is called) quite freely when he teleported away like that, since there was little chance of hitting allies too. I also recall it making short work of him.
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I cleverly managed to both destroy the Circle and slaughter the elves this run so my final fight army selection was pretty melee limited. My Templars had bows but didn't seem especially skilled with them. In retrospect, I believe the Redcliffe guys have bows as well but it was no big deal.

Anyway, the big lizard died easily enough aside from the game crashing the first time I jumped on his head for the final blow and having to re-do the battle.

After I killed the skyrim dragon the first time, I was messing around and fell off a very high cliff - before i'd saved. I think these things happen for a reason.
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Anyway, the big lizard died easily enough aside from the game crashing the first time I jumped on his head for the final blow and having to re-do the battle.
Does it crash on you often? I get random crashes. I go days without one then I'll get 2-3 in one day.
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Yeah, it's fairly crashy for me especially during larger fights. The first time I played, I looked around and it was a pretty common complaint with rebooting usually delaying the next crash for some time (a day or more). One they start though, they seem to slowly become more frequent until I reboot again. But I can usually crash, refight the fight that made me crash without incident and play for another hour or two without crashing again so I'm not sure what triggers it. It's the only game I have that acts that way so I don't think it's a hardware issue.

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The game has a memory leak, which was partially fixed in a patch. When it starts to get laggy, save and restart. But yeah, I've had the "big fight" crash as well as the "what the hell, it crashed AGAIN?" series of crashes. Some areas are more prone than others, I've noticed.
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Anyway, the big lizard died easily enough aside from the game crashing the first time I jumped on his head for the final blow and having to re-do the battle.
Does it crash on you often? I get random crashes. I go days without one then I'll get 2-3 in one day.


Yeah, the crashing has made me very click-happy with the save button. I'm always paranoid loading the next area, or looting the next corpse will cause all my effort to go *poof* on me. Smiley: frown
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My game LOVES to crash during the same boss fight, over and over, just before I get the kill. If not that, then it will crash in the subsequent, unavoidable conversation which comes before the game autosaves.

I left off with Wynne in the Fade confronting the Desire Demon. That fight is hard enough with her pathetic Spirit Healer setup, but after it crashed for the third time when I was going to win, I got fed up.
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I'm lucky in that I've never had a conversation or looting crash. It's always "Fireball cast on top of Inferno on those eight mobs...? Aw, **** no..."
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Going up to Redcliffe Castle from the basement, I just save right there and restart the game. If I don't, it will crash.

During the Fade I save after every fight and before I fight the boss. Those areas are really crash-prone, for me.

Same with the very end game. Before I head up to the roof, I save.
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My crashes are like Joph's, very random and mostly only in combat or running around.
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#100 Apr 24 2012 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
I've only had my game crash once so far. I don't even remember what I was doing specifically, I just remember I was very annoyed because it'd been about 30 minutes since the game had auto-saved. I've tried to make a habit of doing the quick save every 10 minutes or so since then.
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#101 Apr 24 2012 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
Also, I've been thinking about what kind of set up to do in a second run through as a rogue. I'm curious to see what would happen choosing some of the more "evil" plot options, like killing off the mages instead of helping them, and siding with the Andraste cult and stuff like that. However, I know if I do that I'll only have Morrigan as a mage/healer, and I'll lose Leliana as well. I do like the current party set up I have now, of the tank and three ranged people, as it makes it a lot easier to avoid AoE damage and stuff like that. But I guess having two melee and two ranged wouldn't be that bad.
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