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#1 Nov 28 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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Which is everyone most looking for in Rift?

I'm personally most interested in the Raiding and Grouping aspects of MMOs, I'm a full time raider raiding 14hrs a week in EQ2 so I'm hoping Raids in Rift will be awesome. I do however think they will have to be a balance between all three forms of play in order for Rift to be successful but personally, Raids > all! :)



BTW This isnt a flame thread so please no trolls. Simply just want to see what everyone prefers.
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#2 Nov 28 2010 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I want to raid and group mostly. Soloing gets rather boring after a while.

On a side note, Who do you raid with Tariuss?
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#3 Nov 28 2010 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
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Cyanix wrote:
I want to raid and group mostly. Soloing gets rather boring after a while.

On a side note, Who do you raid with Tariuss?




Currently I'm raiding as a Mystic on Guk, I'm in one of the 3 top raid guilds on the server. I used to be a raider as Tariuss my Illusionist on AB but got burnt out and tired of the devs ignoring the clearly broken chanter mechanics.
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#4 Nov 28 2010 at 7:12 PM Rating: Good
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Raiding and groups, love killing things with my friends be it other people or npc
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#5 Nov 28 2010 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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are there people that prefer to only play solo? I've never met one and if I ever do I'd probably ask them why are they wasting their time with an MMORPG.

No versus for me, I do all three, solo, group and raid.
#6 Nov 28 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
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z0mbi wrote:
are there people that prefer to only play solo? I've never met one and if I ever do I'd probably ask them why are they wasting their time with an MMORPG.

No versus for me, I do all three, solo, group and raid.



well judging by all the soloers that whine on the Everquest 2 boards I'd say yes, there are people willing to play MMOs and not group or raid, basically an overpriced chat client. I've never understood this type of player but dont have anything against them tbh.
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#7 Nov 28 2010 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Depends on the content. I prefer to group up and socialise with people, but I may end up boycotting the instances in this game if I do decide to invest into it. Grouping to me is only fun when we as a group can have an impact on the server, no matter how small.
#8 Nov 29 2010 at 2:13 AM Rating: Decent
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me when I run a Dun it depends on my level the lvl of the Dun or if it requires a group or guild.
I have done Raids, I have done Groups, and I tend to solo.

I tend to solo while doing quest and lvling and gathering. Its not because I am antisocial or because I dont want to share the loot. Its just I like to go at my pace. Sometimes I am slow say its a busy day and I have to go for an hour or even break for five min to do something. I dont want people waiting on me or getting ahead of me. I mean I will party with friends on a couple quest or a dungeon if we are there and I know they wont mind waiting on me for brief periods of time.

As for dungeons there is sometimes something more thrillers and accomplishing about completing the whole thing by yourself saying YES I can solo that. Then you know you should no problem in a group if you choose to do it that way.

Some times I do not want to have to wait on others. I know my build will get the job done ten times faster than them so why should I wait around thirty minutes waiting for them to finish the same quest that I just did. I do it when I feel like it. My fiance and I game together all the time.
I will party with her sometimes I will run ahead, sometimes she will, sometimes we stay by each others side, sometimes we finish at the same time.
Same goes for me and anyone I party with.

Not that I dont work well as a team member I am an excellent and very helpful team member when I am in a group.

It just half the time I dont feel like partying, and usually I do not like to party with people I do not know. If we talk decided to party okay awesome, but usually if I get this random party invite I will decline and ignore it.
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#9 Nov 29 2010 at 2:59 AM Rating: Decent
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raids > group > solo

raids means more people, means more tactics, means more chance things go wrong, means more laughing at/with each other

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#10 Nov 30 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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Just something about being on vent with friends while having a good time killing things together.
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#11 Nov 30 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Always group play. I solo when my guildies are not around during odd hours. Raiding is fun for me, but I can only do 1-2 times a week before the game feels like a job.
#12 Nov 30 2010 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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After raiding 'almost-hardcore' for a while, I don't really like raiding anymore.

Group play with a friend or two is what I'm looking forward to the most. Solo play is also fun if the character you play feel powerful, and not weak. Feeling weak in an MMO takes away all the fun for me. I'm sure others will agree !
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#13 Nov 30 2010 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Raiding and grouping for me unless I'm doing PvP. Sometimes I like running PvP solo and without group or just a partner as we are a small footprint. The problem I run into with raids is usually my timezone and the times I get to play.
#14 Nov 30 2010 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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I am looking for the following in a game:

* Possible to solo, but definitely should be slower and/or more difficult than grouping.
* Group content is available and encouraged at all levels. I would actually love a wide variety of content from duo and trio up through full group content.
* I have no objection to raid content being there, but I don't want to have raiding be required or be the only thing to do at endgame.

Personally I'm expecting Rift to have a similar balance to WoW. Very sparse group content until endgame. Focus (overfocus?) on easy solo content to grind through to get to endgame. I'm then expecting endgame to focus on grouping and raiding. Not an ideal game for me, but it works for WoW and should be fun to see and burn through content for a while.

Admittedly I haven't read a lot of details about Rift, so I'm hoping I'll be surprised when I actually get into the game :)
#15 Nov 30 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Raiding and grouping all the way! community interaction is a big deal in an mmo and I think it makes up the life of it.
#16 Nov 30 2010 at 5:03 PM Rating: Good
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rlunt68 wrote:
I am looking for the following in a game:

* Possible to solo, but definitely should be slower and/or more difficult than grouping.
* Group content is available and encouraged at all levels. I would actually love a wide variety of content from duo and trio up through full group content.
* I have no objection to raid content being there, but I don't want to have raiding be required or be the only thing to do at endgame.

Personally I'm expecting Rift to have a similar balance to WoW. Very sparse group content until endgame. Focus (overfocus?) on easy solo content to grind through to get to endgame. I'm then expecting endgame to focus on grouping and raiding. Not an ideal game for me, but it works for WoW and should be fun to see and burn through content for a while.

Admittedly I haven't read a lot of details about Rift, so I'm hoping I'll be surprised when I actually get into the game :)


Found this while reading a interview, you might find interesting.

Ten Ton Hammer: How much thought has gone into end game at this point, will it ship with raid content already in place?

Scott Hartsman: Absolutely, we have some end game elements that have been in testing, if you count warfronts, when we started raid testing and expert dungeon testing, it’s been several months now. We have two separate roadmaps, one for 1 to 50 and a much more detailed one for level 50 onward. We are intentionally making a game that doesn’t need to have the 1 to 50 content extended to create gameplay. We want the 1 to 50 leveling to take as much time as we have available content, we don’t want it to be a grind.

We aren’t going to be one of those games that plays one way in beta and then you get to launch and it’s like, hey everything is now 10 times longer, enjoy the launch game! People would rightfully freak out and that would kill a lot of the fun in the game. We have been pacing the game the way we want it to play in alpha and planning out what end game tiering will look like after that. We have two tiers of expert mode dungeons, we have got raids both interior and exterior, we have the PvP instances, we even have end game level crafting and reputations. You will be able to log in and have your choice of six or seven things you can do, we don’t want to get in the trap of being a game where folks feel like they have nothing to do. One half to two-thirds of our design team has transitioned to end game already and our QA team is actively running their own playtests that they can get feedback right into the designers hands.
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#17 Nov 30 2010 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
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Very good find on the TTH post. I was sooo looking forward to WAR. Probably my fav beta(so far) then it seemed like a different game at launch. Killed the experience for me.
#18 Nov 30 2010 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
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More that goes along with it and talks about the lower lvl stuff.

Ten Ton Hammer: Going the other way then, how would you rate the replayability of the early game?

Scott Hartsman: That is definitely a concern of most MMO players, myself included, and our goal is to make sure that the game is so fun and functional as you play it up that you are willing to do it again, and that you will look forward to more content being added over time. I have played three guardians and a couple of defiants up, and while you will see some of the same things again for sure, but between the way we update content in the game as well as the dynamic gameplay there are lots of different types of things to do. If you wanted to skip a zone entirely, you could play a bunch of warfronts to gain levels.
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#19 Nov 30 2010 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Raiding and instances for me. But i hope the solo content is strong as well. Sometimes i just want to go off and do my own thing for awhile.
#20 Nov 30 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Decent
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TariussRift wrote:
Which is everyone most looking for in Rift?

I'm personally most interested in the Raiding and Grouping aspects of MMOs, I'm a full time raider raiding 14hrs a week in EQ2 so I'm hoping Raids in Rift will be awesome. I do however think they will have to be a balance between all three forms of play in order for Rift to be successful but personally, Raids > all! :)



BTW This isnt a flame thread so please no trolls. Simply just want to see what everyone prefers.


Heh as an old time raider on EQ2 and more recently on AoC I am looking forward to the grouping and raiding the most Though I do like my soloing from time to time but I never did much in Eq2 ( soloing as a Templar sucked even with AA safe as heck you'd never die but ugh ). Also these guys made some of the funniest Raid/Hard encounters ( turtle/Godking etc in EQ2)
#21 Nov 30 2010 at 10:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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whitemanezamwoo wrote:
TariussRift wrote:
Which is everyone most looking for in Rift?

I'm personally most interested in the Raiding and Grouping aspects of MMOs, I'm a full time raider raiding 14hrs a week in EQ2 so I'm hoping Raids in Rift will be awesome. I do however think they will have to be a balance between all three forms of play in order for Rift to be successful but personally, Raids > all! :)



BTW This isnt a flame thread so please no trolls. Simply just want to see what everyone prefers.


Heh as an old time raider on EQ2 and more recently on AoC I am looking forward to the grouping and raiding the most Though I do like my soloing from time to time but I never did much in Eq2 ( soloing as a Templar sucked even with AA safe as heck you'd never die but ugh ). Also these guys made some of the funniest Raid/Hard encounters ( turtle/Godking etc in EQ2)


What server you raid on in AoC
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#22 Dec 01 2010 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
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definitely looking forward to making a name for myself in a brand new MMO mainly in the pvp aspect

Edited, Dec 1st 2010 6:01am by Notevenbad
#23 Dec 01 2010 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
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All of the above? :D
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#24 Dec 03 2010 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I would say group and smaller (15 person and below) raiding. I've had experience with large raids and stuff tends to go wrong and things don't end up working out right, and my time is valuable, plus failure sucks. winners only :P I find it easier to get a smaller group of people to work together and control the dynamics of. But who knows if there's enough intelligent fun people I'd do larger raids as long as they weren't 8 hour wipe-fests. Soloing kinda sucks for anything more than about an hour at a time imo.
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#25 Dec 05 2010 at 4:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm in it for groups. I always like getting a specialized, small group to blast its way through difficult quests or instances. Raids are secondary, and honestly, it'll take a while to establish a trusted enough community to make raiding a possibility for me.
#26 Dec 05 2010 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
I'm interested in a bit of everything really. I currently am playing EQ2 and I do all of these there. I raid about 12 hours each week there, so I will be interested to see how the raiding in Rift is!
#27 Dec 05 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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I prefer Group and Solo. But I will be raiding too.
#28 Dec 05 2010 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm looking forward to grouping to level up. Solo play has never held much interest for me unless I'm sick with the flu or have a limited amount of time to be on. It's an online world..why choose not to interact with others when you have more success doing so anyway? To each their own I suppose, but I like the social aspect.

Raiding is also something I highly anticipate. I must admit, after five+ years of being on WoW I am completely worn out from their style of raids and I can't even find it in myself to be excited about the newest expansion solely because I have no interest in WoW raiding any more. It'll be something different entirely to see how it's done in Rift.
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#29 Dec 06 2010 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a Battleground guy. Although some of my favorite WoW memories were in Kara with my guild. I'm looking for some fast and furious PVP action, with some great instances/raids to fill the in-between time. Although i could see my self getting into crafting if it's a little more fleshed out than most MMO's are.
#30 Dec 07 2010 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Kara was one of the major highlights in WoW for me. It was by far my favorite raiding experience. From what I've been hearing and seeing regarding Rift though, I can imagine some crazy good raiding moments. Like huge rifts opening up with super special, very hard bosses that require larger groups of players maybe. I'd be all on board for that.
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#31 Dec 07 2010 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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A significant portion of dev time is going to their endgame, so I imagine some pretty special stuff is in store for the late game.
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#32 Dec 09 2010 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I've yet to decide my play style since it is early in and I haven't had the opportunity to test the game. I've varied through different MMO's. Example: Back in my old EQ days, I raided on Stromm and we were #1 Guild on the server at the time but we also raided 6 days a week (lol talk about no life). Then moved over to WOW where I became a PVPer. Most PVP'd with friends and did Arenas. Then took a long break from wow to play Warhammer. In Warhammer, I lead a guild of about 200 active members where we did Huge PVP Raids, also many high end PVE content as well for armor. After WH did their server merges and nerfed/changed a lot of classes many people left including myself and went back to WOW. After going back to WOW, I transferred to a co-workers realm where I started to PVE and raid hardcore yet once again. ;p Then I heard about Aion and figured I'd give it a try. Mostly in Aion, I tend to play Solo PvP or with Groups.

So, after that huge paragraph and history what conclusion have I came too - None. :D Although I prefer to have skilled players over zerg style any day of the week.

Edited, Dec 9th 2010 5:36pm by Celestyn
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#33 Dec 09 2010 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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In most MMOs I follow group play and since rifts first instance made a really good impression on me i think this will be the path i will follow for this game:)
#34 Dec 09 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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you need a perfect balance of all three for a good MMO in my opinion.... but I look forward to group PvP
- raids dungeons/bosses make you join a guild or make one
- groups make you get to know people and make friends, and or just because you need to be in a group for a particular objective/reason but you usually make friends along the way regardless.
- solo makes you improve on your skills because you dont have X amount of other players to lean on

.....just my 2cents


Edited, Dec 9th 2010 9:56pm by seacorb
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