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#1 Dec 23 2010 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
My biggest worry about this game is will it be a grind fest? Also will the game be fun after level 20. Most MMOs are great until level 21. Then they grind you to the end of the game where (if you make it that far) you have nothing to do. I like what I see in this game but playing it is a different story.
#2 Dec 23 2010 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I can't attest to past 20, but from what I've tested thus far, the leveling is very smooth and fluid. There didn't seem to be any "****-levels" and the grinding wasn't that necessary. There were more than enough quests to follow the lines without doing much in between. There have also been statements made that you can level up with the PvP warfronts which was a blast in WAR. If done right, no one character experience will be the same as the other.
#3 Dec 23 2010 at 6:23 AM Rating: Good
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Well, even if things fall apart and you don't have enough quests to get to a certain level, at least you have a variety of grinds to choose from. What I mean is that you at least have the choice of:

* Grind solo mobs
* Grind rift-hunting solo, with a group or raid.

Beyond that, I'm hopeful of:

* Grind elite outdoor mobs with a group. I've run into a couple of outdoor elite camps in Beta1 and 2. I'm hoping those are going to be a semi-regular feature on the outdoor maps, but I can't confirm that this option will always be available.
* Grind dungeons with groups. I'm hoping that there is always going to be at least 1 dungeon for your level range after you get to 17+ (which we know is going to be the level of the first dungeons).
* Grind PvP? We'll find out next week if PvP is going to grant advancement XP. I'm hoping, but not positive that the answer is going to be yes.
#4 Dec 23 2010 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess I still don't why people have aversions to "grinding" in any form. This really isn't your genre if you can't handle some grind. Another way to look at it is "progression". Leveling,questing,pvp,'s all a form of grind. What's important is that you enjoy your time spent playing and don't worry about it. This isn't a competition, get out there and make your own things to do. So many people want to be spoon-fed instead of enjoying the game.
#5 Dec 23 2010 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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Degha wrote:
Leveling,questing,pvp,'s all a form of grind. What's important is that you enjoy your time spent playing and don't worry about it.
Well, that's probably the main question about grinding. Is there a grind that you enjoy that is available to you? Solo questing is definitely a grind in WoW and WoW-like games. Some people like that, others hate it. Personally I burn out on any given grind if I do it too much, so I'm really happy that Rift has a variety of different grinds.
#6 Dec 23 2010 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Hmm I really dont like the Aion grinding, but on the other hand id like to see that a level mean something. Not just level to toplevel asap and then start to play. Let professions mean something at low, and mid level to. Toplevel should not be to easy to achieve, maybe at the ten last levels or so you have to really start working on your toon. Questchains to complete both solo and party with a storyline that push you further into the game. Really pay attention to your gear and stats, so you cant just move on.
#7 Dec 23 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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this game is designed so players CAN solo to max level without too much difficulty... or, they can group and do rifts or dungeons.
#8 Dec 23 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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this game is designed so players CAN solo to max level without too much difficulty... or, they can group and do rifts or dungeons.

Hmmm ..... that was kinda what i was afraid of. Hopefully there will other things during leveling that keep the interest up. Butmaybe this is what the majority of mmo players want? Only toplevel and endgame that is interesting. Ah well im not gonna let that stop me from give the game a serious try anyway.
#9 Dec 23 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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If the game starts with 50 levels, I would like to see 1 through 30 be ok solo, 31 to 40 be tough and 41 to 50 be god aweful. I think group rewards on Exp should increase the further you go into the game.

I solo a lot because of my time limits for gaming, but I think being forced to group at some point is good for builing community in a game. I think there is a difference between being able to solo to 50 and having it be an unsavory serious grind option compared to grouping. At higher levels, people need to learn to work in the groups.
#10 Dec 23 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Took me 4-5 hours to get to lvl 20, i suppose it's not a Grind Fest like Aion or Lineage 2, and i'm pretty sure the Rifts will keep the game interesting even while exping.
#11 Dec 24 2010 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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From what I hear, the funny thing is that many beta players are asking for the ability to grind more. As it stands, you level entirely through questing but some are asking for the alternative of instanced grinding.

#12 Dec 24 2010 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Just remember. You do get very good xp for rifting and progressing through the stages. This does break up the monotony of questing.
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