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#1 Feb 14 2011 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello folks,

I am currently looking for a new laptop since mine is 4.5y old so kind of outdated. And I need opinions concerning xoticpc stuff
http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-laptops-ct-95_51_150.html


I am torn between the Asus G73JH
http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g73jha1-p-2731.html?wconfigure=yes

Because of the ATI Graphic card which seems excellent but back order

And Asus G73JW
http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g73jwa1-p-2858.html?wconfigure=yes

nvidia 1.5g so nice card too (and not back order at the moment)

And finally
http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g73swa1-republic-gamers-asus-gaming-laptop-p-2970.html?wconfigure=yes
seems more powerful but cost more
And I don't exactly know why.

So please if you have any suggestions, I am all ears.
#2 Feb 14 2011 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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If you want to game... Don't get a laptop. What you can get for 2k on a desktop you will pay 4k on a laptop and it will still not run as well.
#3 Feb 14 2011 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Also note that ATI is no more. AMD took them over, and AMD is still trying to fix the driver problem you are better off with nvidia.
#4 Feb 14 2011 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Games = Death to laptops. Why you ask? well playing a game u only get about 2 hours on batt life if your lucky on low graphics. Also the fans are not built for long period use so even if u have it well vent'd(on a desk not on your lap) the fans bog out because there small and just stuck in where they can be to keep the package small. Most MOBO's in laptops are not built for gaming as there a business tool.

Now your rebuttal..I leave my laptop plugged in batt life isnt a problem..Ok now your just creating a memory in your batt(and yes even if the batt says it dosnt form a memory it will)and u completely took away your whole well if im on the go i can still play, Not no more. I use an air flow try to add air flow to my labtop..Ok so your blowing wind upwards at a solid bottom? oo yeah and the only openings are your fans that are blowing the other way? Good way to negate any airflow in your computer at all. I have a gaming laptop its built for gaming? No it just has gaming parts in it, you can have the same mobo in a laptop as a desktop and the desktops will always preform better (dont have to turn on batt saving features, have extremely good air flow to keep temps way down during overclocking), Same gos for all parts ram, video cards everything.

Now the biggest turn off for a laptop is the cost. Your going to pay about 50-100$ more for each part in a laptop just because its specially built to be super small and fit in this nice lil package that dose nothing but hinder your gaming ablitys..

Now last but not least why do the pros use them? well because they actually travel from tournament to tournament and most of the time if your at that level of comp your sponsor provided said laptop for u

*EDIT* and to the above post on AMD cards. I have a 5850 on my desktop and a 4870 in my laptop and have experienced no problems whats so ever..and if your deadset on getting a laptop never put nvidia in it..They run very hot and suck a stupid amount of power for what they produce (hence why they are cheaper then AMD, because they are inferior cards)

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 5:22pm by Hemptation
#5 Feb 14 2011 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Well the question is not laptop vs desktop, I know desktop are cheaper for better performance but I prefer laptop.
The goal is not to play while unplugged that's simply bad. And I know how battery memory work I have the best exemple in front of me while typing this. in 3.5year my battery went from 2 1/2h to 3mins.

I just wanted to know the community's opinion concerning these laptops.

Thx for the nvidia vs AMD tip.
But please take a look at the fans on those machines they seems quite nice.

EDIT ALso you have both laptop and desktop so why the hate =p.

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 5:35pm by xHecto
#6 Feb 14 2011 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Im not hating on laptops at all..But by spec my laptop is twice the computer my desktop is (desktops 3 years older just has a better vid card cuz the old one died) and it dosnt even compare to my desktop and my laptop cost me 1300$ and my computer cost me 700 3 years ago + 300 about a year ago
#7 Feb 14 2011 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
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Highly recommend you check out the following forum:

http://forums.notebookreview.com.

I can't speak specifically to the JW, but I have the G73JH. Great machine. A small % have had issues with improperly applied cheap garbage thermal paste. Looks great, when assembled properly runs very cool. Touchpad on the G73 series is absolute garbage. Keyboard is a little . . spongy [enough to be noticeable if you're a heavy fingered typer]

Runs wow just as well as my 4Ghz overclocked AMD X6, 8 gig ram, overclocked 5870 desktop at near max settings [shadows down 2]. Both machines perform virtually identical.

By comparison, Sager has a reputation for superior quality. No bloatware. Easy access to all essential hardware [gfx card, CPU, etc] Haven't actually touched one [family member has one on pre-order] but have heard very promising things about them.

As far as Xoticpc.com goes, this is the vendor my family member has ordered their notebook from. They have an active presence on the forum linked above, and have a history of doing everything they can to actively help out their customers--as well as general forum post advice, etc. From what I have seen thus far, they are very well respected by that particular forum community.


And for pete's sake, if you need a notebook, get a notebook. People that say "gaming is for desktops" obviously haven't used one of these newer machines. As far as price, Xotic has a 15" sager for $789 with a sandy bridge i7, optimus equipped Nvidia 540.

While it's true that a notebook will have less performance capability than it's desktop equivilant, I challenge those desktop users to carry their rigs around on business trips for half the year ;).




Oh, last note: the SW version of te G73 is a 3d equipped machine, hence the price increase

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 7:28pm by seneleron
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#8 Feb 14 2011 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow thanks for the insight Seneleron, great post!
#9 Feb 15 2011 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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i currently have this laptop right now, and a desktop and the laptop is mainly for when i travel for my work.




http://www.amazon.com/Asus-LAPTOP-COMPUTER-Processor-Display/dp/tech-data/B004CHULN8


anyway it is a strong performer out performs my desktops 4890

and the heat issue is not an issue the bottom is vented so buy a laptop cooler really helps and the back pumps out alot of hot air with those 2 huge vents in the back. Play on a laptop cooler and you will be fine and i know ive heard the same thing buy when you go out of town for 5 weeks for work or more its nice to have some creature comforts


1199$ is a good price for this thing imo. thats the price at bestbuy

Edited, Feb 15th 2011 7:30pm by cheapshota
#10 Feb 15 2011 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I own an Alienware m11x, the netbook on steroids. It's a great sub-12 inch gaming laptop. Plays rift great, almost 3 hrs battery life while gaming (6+ on webbrowsing). Has switchable graphics (nvida optimus), lights are cool, runs most games I throw at it. Loves it and it was 800 bucks to buy, which at that price is very unlike alienware and their usual 3000+ price tags.

Only negatives, doesn't support DirectX 11, for any games released this year, shadows can choke performance, and the all plastic body feels a little cheapish (I was spoiled by my old Acer's metal ***** hinges)

So far, runs Rift fine as well on high detail (minus character shadows).
#11 Feb 15 2011 at 9:58 PM Rating: Good
I own a Asus G73..and i think it is the JH model.

I love it.
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