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#1 Feb 21 2011 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
EDIT: 3/2/11 THIS WAS A BETA 7 BUILD FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF SOLOING TOUGH/ELITE MOBS OR CROWDED 3-4 MOB PULL AREAS. THERE ARE MANY FASTER BUILDS FOR EASY CONTENT. READ FURTHER POSTS FOR MORE CLARITY. THANKS!



http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0Mcpi.fIz.iIohzoz.Vh

That was the build I was playing with on my 30 rogue this last beta. It's kinda insane. I use cadence 2 times to build 5 combo points which is nice to reduce combo point builder spam. It also heals like crazy. Then I pop my armor or absorb shields from Riftstalker. On Normal mobs they can barely hurt you through building combo points on cadence heals. Plus the nightblade boost to non physical damage and combo points building buff makes cadence hit a lot harder.

If just killing an easy mob use your NB Blazing strike finisher for max DPS.Or refresh your armor or absorb shields as necessary.

You can solo elite mobs your own level no prob. You can take out a group of 5-6 non elites and end full health. Rift Scavenger heals for a ton after anymob you kill if you build some combo points with cadence right before it dies. You can tank elite rift mobs while healing everyone around you.

Oh and you can stealth and CC though crowded areas if you dont feel like fighting your way through. Stealth slam them with lost hope and you walk right in front of them till the next mob which you can lost hope again becuase there is no cooldown and the mob you CCed before is now out of range.

You can teleport from mob to mob. You have one that attacks them and one that just teleports you behind them and even works on freindly mobs which is fun to move fast to NPC's. You also get a 15% non combat speed buff from bard.

Very good solo and rift closing build. If you need to tank a tough mob go guardian phase. If you are solo or just DPSing go stalker phase. One of my favorites out of many I tried. After 30 I would most likely throw more points in Bard and Rift. You could drop NB for Bladedancer to get the 0 point dodge emergency boost and 5% dodge to be even more tanky on elites but I found it overkill and preferred the extra damage to cadence for most solo things.

Enjoy!









Edited, Feb 21st 2011 8:10pm by Shojindo

Edited, Mar 2nd 2011 12:59pm by Shojindo
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#2 Feb 23 2011 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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What order did you take the souls and how did you distribute the points. I would love to try this but I would probably do it backwards :)
#3 Feb 23 2011 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I really don't like that build, it's way to much tank for leveling!
You only need 12 points in bard to tank any mob, and then put the rest of the points in 2 dps specs.
#4 Feb 23 2011 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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plus its called "BuRN".
#5 Feb 23 2011 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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I really don't like that build, it's way to much tank for leveling!
You only need 12 points in bard to tank any mob, and then put the rest of the points in 2 dps specs.


Not really. I just enjoy being virtually unkillable. In early game it hardly matters but later on in less crowded area's like the canyons when you find yourself alone at a rift with elites you will come to find it takes more than just the points in bard to solo them. I should say it's not optimized for a traditional Tank/Healer/3 DPS party.

Its more of a fun build for playing superman and pulling packs of mobs in crowded area's with no worries. Or soloing elite Rift mobs/Bosses. But its not slow to kill. Especially if you stay stalker phase unless going after something big.

I don't play in a hurry anyway. This is just my army of one build. I keep a nightstalker build for straight DPS. And will most likely have a pure bard role at some point as well.

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plus its called "BuRN


Bard/Riftstaker/Nightblade so maybe BaRN!

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What order did you take the souls and how did you distribute the points. I would love to try this but I would probably do it backwards :)


Now thats a good question. I actually started my beta rogue as MM/RNG/As and swapped around builds quite a few times on the way up. They were all fun to play. I like the variety.

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An old silent pond...
A frog jumps into the pond,
splash! Silence again.

~ Matsuo Basho
#6 Mar 01 2011 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
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What is the Value of unstable State in the Nightblade Line? What attacks are you using that are considered non-physical?
#7 Mar 01 2011 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Caddal wrote:
What is the Value of unstable State in the Nightblade Line? What attacks are you using that are considered non-physical?


All Bard attacks are non-physical.
#8 Mar 01 2011 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
Cadence hits for life damage. It boosts the damage of cadence which in turn boosts the value of the heal you get from cadence. You can use cadence as your combo point builder and it saves some spamming since it generates 3 CP per one use while healing the crap out of you and anyone in your group. If you were maintanking though you will want to use your threat generators like mocking blow.

There are points to shift around here by preference. For example I have decided I would rather have the full health boost from bard and not sweat the extra motif time.

I'm thinking of making my 3rd roll full tank for instances and going with this:

http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0McpV.xIz.nIubuoz0z

I have been playing with lots of new builds on my way back to 30 since head start. Early on one of the most laid back ways to level rogue is Bard/Ranger/whatever. Take your 12 points in bard and then start filling out ranger. You can heal your pet with cadence or motif of regen + ranger heal all while pumping out solid DPS from ranger finishers and shots.

Basically 12 points in bard makes any solo rogue build a ton less squishy but my original overkill super solo build I posted in this thread was for taking on 3 man content at level and surviving things not meant to be soloed. It does not matter early on but once you get around 27+ there starts to be times when it can be real handy to have as a roll. Especially during beta when Scarlet Gorge was kinda empty while I was there and I was trying to solo close some nasty elite rifts. :)

I could talk about this all day but for now I am rolling with:

1 Fast/easy content solo PvE Build: Brd/Assassin/Nightblade (I'll sing you a song about how I am going to pop out of stealth and kill you!)

One Op PvP build: NB/Sab/Rift (Its damage is not that high its just that people dont see the damage that is about to come from your CP generators until you pop detonate so it all comes at once and they panic) ( Seriously a topic for an entire other thread but my assassin stabs for 100+ a pop building to finisher for 700-800 Sab just end loads that same exact damage and bursts your face off)

One "I can solo that" build: Brd/Rift/ NB or BD

So yeah I need a 4th build soon for main tanking to make a clean as possible main tank build. But the solo one can main tank most low-mid stuff atm just fine.











Edited, Mar 1st 2011 8:39am by Shojindo
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An old silent pond...
A frog jumps into the pond,
splash! Silence again.

~ Matsuo Basho
#9 Mar 02 2011 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I was expecting the "Unstable State" affected the Cadence. But I just don't see this as such a huge value in this build. When I run primarily my Bard build - I follow Selinya's Bard Guide" I have all 3 points put into "Unstable State'.

Anyhow I tried out this build and I could not stand it past an hour. I was level 26 and I just had such a hard time killing mobs and the damage was so low it was painful to watch. Now, it is quite possible that I suck, but I ran back to my primary Bard build.

I would be interested to know - What skills are you utilizing as you fight through the mobs. If this was a dance, then i have 2 left feet.

Please, this is not a knock on your build, I just want to know why i was so bad at it.
#10 Mar 02 2011 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
Well I am past 30 now and I will say most of the more pure DPS classes are getting the skill depth they need to shine. I'm running mostly NB/Assasin/Sab now for PvE becuase it is faster against non threatening mobs.

But I am keeping a Brd/Rift/Bladedance build for tough fights or for things like running the flag in the 3rd 30+ WF whose name suddenly escapes me. And also a pure NB/Sab/Rift build for bursting people down in PvP.

How you play Bard/Rift/NB is crucial if you don't want to feel like you are slogging. I don't have time to explain the exact rotations for finishers and whatnot right now as I am on lunch and need to go back to the office.

I'll try and post something up later.

I originally posted this build in beta when I was fighting off invasions from level 27-30 in Scarlet Gorge when not enough people were that high level so I was having to superman some tough stuff. I should post that as a caveat. I am finding that this build is situational like I said before and that it's not the fastest build for everyday one normal on level mob leveling by a long shot.

I am also finding that builds have sweet spots where if you don't have enough points they are not hot. Or Also if you are higher than a certain point in level other builds out shine it for different purposes.

Having 3-4 builds in this game is going to allow you to have a specialist build for certain occasions which is pretty **** cool.



Edited, Mar 2nd 2011 1:00pm by Shojindo
____________________________
An old silent pond...
A frog jumps into the pond,
splash! Silence again.

~ Matsuo Basho
#11 Mar 02 2011 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
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"Having 3-4 builds in this game is going to allow you to have a specialist build for certain occasions which is pretty **** cool."

I could not agree more. I love this aspect of the game.
#12 Mar 03 2011 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been doing rangerXX/bard12/rift8 and it's very tankish too, except you have the pet taking 2-3 mobs too. Very easy to solo same level elites with it. Eventually I'll take the build to ranger32/bard25/rift8.

I'm more impressed with the bardXX/sab1X/ranger0 build for level 1-30. It's solid in pvp or group dps and still has a lot of support with the bard. Not as tankish, but group heals + high dps is good when you have a tank/healer combo with you.
#13 Mar 04 2011 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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LOL.. Funny Story. I figured out why I had such a hard time with your B/R/N build... I never trained up the R/N skills :) All the skills I was using were still Rank 1.
#14 Mar 04 2011 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, if understand it correctly your current roles/souls are:

PVE
NB/Assasin/Sab
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I'm running mostly NB/Assasin/Sab now for PvE becuase it is faster against non threatening mobs.

How does this work with adds? As ranger I can just leave my pet to die and run away if a fight turns ugly.


TANK (instance and/or warfronts?)
http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0McpV.xIz.nIubuoz0z

PVP
NB/Sab/Rift

I just turned 30 and have been playing a MM/Rang/Brd until now and wanna try something new, especially for fast grinding/leveling to catch up to my friends levels :).

Would really appreciate som updated build-links and perhaps some good rotations to try out.

Cheers


Edited, Mar 4th 2011 3:35pm by Turbogubben
#15 Apr 17 2011 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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i also would like to know rotation when fighting elites......please
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