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#1 Mar 04 2011 at 1:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looking for a little advice on where to place a few of the points so your Bard build can heal a group in a pinch? Curious as to what is popular with your fellow Assassins? ZAM has added a Most Popular/Highest Rated Build List tool to our already epic Soul Builder! Check how your build rates or leave comments on how you feel a highly rated build might make it better. We also have the option to create lists/leaderboards of builds you can post on your own site via the XML/json export buttons. (You can build a search and after running it, get the url from the json/xml buttons.) Give it a try!

Edited, Mar 4th 2011 2:45pm by Kaasha
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#2 Mar 04 2011 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Kaasha,

How exactly do you add a build to the list?
#3 Mar 04 2011 at 3:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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We track how often a specific build is viewed. If it is a new build it might not show up for an hour since that's how often we process new builds that are seen and add some meta-data to them which we can later override if it isn't correct.
#4 Mar 04 2011 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
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Hmm, OK.

Is it possible to narrow the search focus even more?

For example, I wanted to find all Dominator builds that had exactly 44 points towards Dominator. Right now if I tried to do that I'd have to dig through over 1000 builds to find ones that met that criteria.

Alternatively, maybe narrow the search focus to just the three souls you're looking for? For example, if you wanted to find builds that only used Dominator, Pyromancer and Archon, you would have to look through all the mage builds to find them.

#5 Mar 04 2011 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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So just wondering where the Cleric Tank builds are. Justicar? Remember them? Why when you select Cleric // Tank do we get builds like Paladin Warden Druid (1 warrior soul and 2 cleric souls)?

Combining souls from different callings is a major bug, imo. Completely omitting roles is another. Please fix.
#6 Mar 04 2011 at 7:24 PM Rating: Good
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Using number of views is a terrible idea. Obviously the ones on the top will get viewed more, but that doesn't make them better. I'm looking at a lot of these builds going "who exactly thought this was a good idea??" Eventually, I realized that there were very few on there that were actually viable for what they said they were for, so I stopped looking. However, since the default filter was by popularity, all I really viewed was "popular" builds (that were terrible).

How exactly are we supposed to improve the intended feature and get rid of the builds that are truly terrible?
#7 Mar 04 2011 at 10:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ravashack wrote:
Hmm, OK.

Is it possible to narrow the search focus even more?

For example, I wanted to find all Dominator builds that had exactly 44 points towards Dominator. Right now if I tried to do that I'd have to dig through over 1000 builds to find ones that met that criteria.

Alternatively, maybe narrow the search focus to just the three souls you're looking for? For example, if you wanted to find builds that only used Dominator, Pyromancer and Archon, you would have to look through all the mage builds to find them.



These are good ideas. They're also a bit more difficult do. The problem we have run into in the past is as we allow more and more complex filters the search gets harder for new people to use. We'll need to figure something out for that.

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So just wondering where the Cleric Tank builds are. Justicar? Remember them? Why when you select Cleric // Tank do we get builds like Paladin Warden Druid (1 warrior soul and 2 cleric souls)?

Combining souls from different callings is a major bug, imo. Completely omitting roles is another. Please fix.


Until we had the build list, it was an amusing bug where you could manipulate the url to get souls from different callings. Of course, that's not so funny anymore. We really do need to remove those and not store info on them.

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Using number of views is a terrible idea. Obviously the ones on the top will get viewed more, but that doesn't make them better. I'm looking at a lot of these builds going "who exactly thought this was a good idea??" Eventually, I realized that there were very few on there that were actually viable for what they said they were for, so I stopped looking. However, since the default filter was by popularity, all I really viewed was "popular" builds (that were terrible).

How exactly are we supposed to improve the intended feature and get rid of the builds that are truly terrible?


Until more people rate builds, this is our best option. Right now our builds are being viewed from a lot of different websites. The current most popular build will disappear from the front page in a few days. For one day it was hugely popular somewhere. After that, not so much. We use a sliding window to determine most popular, not overall.

Over time we hope to be able to greatly improve the default sorting to something much more accurate. Until we get more data though, that isn't possible.

We're working to provide more features for builds in rift. Unlike any other game, they're extremely important. Other games where you had talents or specs you could mostly faceroll and get a workable spec. Doing that in rift could be disastrous.
#8 Mar 05 2011 at 10:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have just added to each soul's wiki article a dynamic list of most popular builds that have that soul's soul in it. These are automatically updated a new ones become more popular over time. You can check them out at Callings (Rift)
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#9 Mar 08 2011 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for replying to the bug issue.

I'm still wondering when you are going to fix Soul Builder // Builds by Calling // Cleric // Tank // Justicar
and Soul Builder // Builds by Type // Tank // Cleric // Justicar.

Because overall that soul is much more tuned to Tanking than to Melee DPS, and should be categorized that way.
#10 Mar 08 2011 at 7:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'll talk to our other in house rift players about the justicar. It's the one soul I'm personally back and forth with a lot on what it's primary role is. I haven't played a cleric high enough to try actual tanking and I personally found a level 20 (which is hardly high enough to say I know the soul well) really good melee dps.
#11 Mar 08 2011 at 7:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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... and internal discussion concluded.

We'll get justicar switched to tanking. My world just went upside down. It was bad enough when I learnt I could play a mage AND heal.
#12 Mar 08 2011 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you very much. :) Yeah, I'm a 43 Justicar tank...I've leveled tank the entire way. lol <3
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