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#1 Mar 06 2011 at 11:41 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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NOW HERE IS A LINK TO THE BUILD I'VE CREATED FOR A RAIDING DPS MELEE ROGUE.A VERY WELL THOUGHT THROUGH SYSTEM OF MOVES AND ORDER IN WHICH TO USE THEM IS POSTED IN THE FIRST COMMENT ON THE BUILD BY ME UNDERNEATH IT. THIS BUILD IS ABOUT DAMAGE AND KEEPING UP THESE 3 SPECIAL PROCS

TELL ME WHAT U THINK FOR A GUY WHO DOESNT HAVE THE GAME YET.
http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1MMpV.0AMcx0f0bb.Vbxc0q.VV0V0c
<a href="http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1MMpV.0AMcx0f0bb.Vbxc0q.VV0V0c">Assassin (27) / Riftstalker (21) / Bladedancer (18)</a>
#2 Mar 07 2011 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't expect to get a spot with a competent guild based on that build. Riftstalker is not for dps builds...it's a tanking soul. All of the points you spent there could achieve superior results if invested into a dps soul.
#3 Mar 07 2011 at 2:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah Riftsalker is a tanking tree, The crit proc is minor to almost useless because you can't combine it with abilities like Assassinate. The Zam talent builder does not say REQUIRES STEALTH and a bunch of abilities, including Assassinate, so that destroys you're dps "rotation". Also you won't be behind the target after using shadow stalk, unless the mob is stunned, via the Foul Play, which you didn't take. You would have trouble solo questing with this build, as you didn't get rift guard to keep the riftstalker shields up, or any of the utility in the assassin tree.

In your build assassinate, incapacitate, elusiveness, paralyzing strike and jagged strike all require stealth. zam talent builder has some issues.
#4 Mar 07 2011 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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sry
#5 Mar 08 2011 at 7:29 AM Rating: Default
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yeah i didnt know assassinate required stealth the soul builder didnt say it and i dont have the game yet so i rlly didnt have a way of telling. i alrdy made another build switched around a good amount of stuff.

but yeah thanks for giving me that heads up or i wouldnt have found out till i got the game.
#6 Mar 19 2011 at 7:15 PM Rating: Default
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ive corrected the build after i learned assassinate is usable in stealth only. (wish the soul builder had told me)
http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MMpV.GVRcx0f.Vbxc0q.VV0V0s

if u have a problem with riftstalker being in a dps raiding build than sit down.
riftstalker has dps potential u just need to know what talents to pick.
im not listing my move rotation. and without it u may not understand the build but just look read the talents i picked and take a look at some of the root abilities this build enables even tho only a few key moves r used in my rotations.
#7 Mar 19 2011 at 8:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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So what's the point of this? Are you trying to prove your 1337 skillz by putting this together?

No parses to post?
Not even some wild claims about what you've accomplished with this build that should put all the noobs to shame?
No?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Listen, sit down for this, if you'd like comments on your build ideas or the direction you're trying to take something, it helps to not act like a jackass here. This isn't mmo-champion, this isn't wow. You're not shaking up the paradigm here, because there isn't one. Rift is meant to give you the freedom to build strange and unusual combinations. Sometimes it works, when it does it's awesome and you should be happy. But if you're going to post something like that and then in the same post condescend to the rest of us who are also playing this game and probably have just as much or more MMO experience than you (and you don't know, because you don't know anything about us) don't expect a warm reception to your ideas.

For my part, I think this is actually kind of interesting, though it needs explanation. Why are the 21 points you've put into Riftstalker here better than 21 points put into a dps soul? Stalker Phase only reduces your threat right after a plane shift ability, and while it does improve your damage passively, there are other souls that do that too without having to invest so heavily in them. The vast majority of Riftstalker root powers are high-threat, which I assume you're trying to avoid since you're calling this a dps build. So what are you doing that makes this a better dps build than one that uses dps souls and invests its points in improving dps?
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#8 Mar 20 2011 at 1:03 PM Rating: Default
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Fairly shortsighted commentary here. (not the previous post I hit reply to, the rest of the thread)

Really, can't combine asn and rs? How about stealth->expose->shadow stalk->assassinate. 15%+ crit, 30%+ damage, 15% reduced damage for 10 seconds, +15% more reduce damage if you take the barrier-on-rifting talent.

Rifting doesn't break stealth unless it has an attack inbuilt. RS is more than fine as a dps tree, it's just not purely a dps tree. It's more of a pvp-survival/dps tree when not used to tank with.

Sab-RS also does really well as a rushdown toe bomber.
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#9 Mar 21 2011 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
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asn/rift is a great solo/pvp build, but not as good of a pure dps build.
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#10 Mar 28 2011 at 10:57 AM Rating: Default
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I cant get the Zam builder to but more then one talent in each spot. so this is another build you should try for Raid spec. i use it for Instance runs... this would be a full 50 rogue. so i got evey thing full but the Sin spec. i find it does 500 normal dmg and 800-1k hit with finisher.
http://www.pressdogs.com/rift/index.html#?archetype=2&soul1=20&soul1_talants=2007,4_2008,2_2011,2_2012,5_2015,3_2016,1_2017,2_2019,5_&soul2=22&soul2_talants=2200,1_2201,2_2203,3_2205,1_2207,1_2208,1_2209,5_2210,1_2212,1_2213,5_2216,2_2217,3_2219,5_&soul3=24&soul3_talants=2413,1_2414,5_2419,5_&lang=eng

This is what i found for me so far... i hope it works for you and you can even improve it.
#11 Mar 28 2011 at 11:00 AM Rating: Default
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Also, i Do know that the talent tree is not current after changes but you get the idea.
#12 Mar 28 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I will agree there, I just hate misconceptions about riftstalker + stealth builds.

Everyone sees that "defensive soul" thing and writes RS off as "tanks only".
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