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#1 Apr 14 2011 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes I am a noob (I was level 21 when I found out about buying new roles). But what are these zone puzzles I keep hearing about and where do I find them?

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#2 Apr 14 2011 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.kfguides.com/rift/puzzlesguide.php

Best to do them early. I didn't do them til i was 50 and missed out on some great Gear.
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I'm still level 37 but a)I wished I heard about them earlier and b)wished I wasn't leveling up so fast.
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Protip: Save all puzzles and cairns for when you are 50. Then do them. Get max available level reward from everything and sell them all on the AH to help pay for your 50 mount.

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Protip: Save all puzzles and cairns for when you are 50. Then do them. Get max available level reward from everything and sell them all on the AH to help pay for your 50 mount.

The more you know! *shooting star*


That is the best idea ever :P I never have any money :P. Def going to do this when i get the chance. I finally broke 20 plat again after getting my mount and 4th role.
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Can you only do puzzles once? Or is it a once a day thing?
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They are only once :(. I still wish they reset when they eliminated pure endurance items above level 13.
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I was wondering on this same subject, how does Trion introduce these things? Does an NPC tell you about them? Is there a tutorial? Or are these just placed out there for the more explorer-types to get rewarded for looking in every nook and cranny?
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Senryi wrote:
I was wondering on this same subject, how does Trion introduce these things? Does an NPC tell you about them? Is there a tutorial? Or are these just placed out there for the more explorer-types to get rewarded for looking in every nook and cranny?


They're just sort of out in the world, usually in out of the way places that you won't find unless you like exploring every nook and cranny to see what's there.

It's really quite a nice reward for doing otherwise completely stupid exploration. A lot of artifacts are in places like this too.

I've never before played a game where I really felt like climbing mountains and exploring the edge of the world was fun until now
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One note about Cairns and Puzzles, each Zone reward is a level range based on the zone it's in. For example Freemarch Cairns and it's puzzle will not give a level 50 item if you wait until 50 to do it, it will however give you the highest BoE Green, Blue or Purple for that Zone level range. The lowest items you can get are level 15 from the Freemarch and I'd assume Guardian lowbie zone. I did all the Freemarch Cairns and the puzzle at level 11 and every piece was level 15, including one very nice purple helm. I can note two examples for Stonefield. I did it's Cairns/Puzzle on 2 diff toons, 1 at level 12/13 (dinged in zone from exploring) and the other at level 28. The 28 toon I got all level 25 items, the 12 toon all were level 20 items. So it would benefit you to do them as you level if you aren't concerned about money at 50 (an alt maybe). Conversely do like one poster said and wait until 50 and then sell them all for good money (or a few nice wellfare 50 pcs when you ding).

To my knowledge Iron Pine Peak, Shimmersand and Stillmoor all give level 45 or 50 items, I received all level 50 items when I did them at 49, nice budget set of blues for level 50.
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One note about Cairns and Puzzles, each Zone reward is a level range based on the zone it's in. For example Freemarch Cairns and it's puzzle will not give a level 50 item if you wait until 50 to do it, it will however give you the highest BoE Green, Blue or Purple for that Zone level range


False.

I did the Silverwood Puzzle at level 30 and got a level 30 Purple. I did it about 3 weeks ago and I haven't heard anything that says they changed the mechanic. The rewards scale with your level and they are usually pretty **** good, so you can eitehr use them yourself or sell them on the AH for good money because they're not bind on pickup.
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#12 Apr 14 2011 at 8:52 PM Rating: Good
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I'm definitely right on this, they are a level range for the Zone level range, not your level when you loot the Cairn. As I said I have received different level items on 2 diff level toons on the SAME Cairns and Puzzles. I can name probably a dozen players in Guild with the exact same results, as well as maybe a dozen more on Shard again with the same results. You WILL NOT get a level 50 item from Freemarch, or Stonefield, or other low level zone if you are level 50 when it is looted. And if you're so right then explain how my level 12/13 got level 20 items out of the Stonefield Cairns/Puzzle and level 15 items out of the Freemarch Cairns/Puzzle while being level 11, by your reasoning they should have been the level I was when I looted them.

The items seem to be Class specific, my Cleric has never gotten a Plate, Leather or Cloth item and my Rogue has never gotten a Plate, Chain or Cloth item. I will agree I haven't found any source online that states from a Trion dev that this is the case, I'm taking it from experience of myself and many dozens of players AND I have read on more than one forum post about Cairns/Puzzles that other players also see the same pattern, that is a level range based on the level range of the zone (min/max kinds thing).

To make this more clear I asked a 50 friend of mine today to go do the Scarwood Reach puzzle and Cairn (he hasn't done any of them to date). Once again he was LEVEL 50 and when looting the Cairn and Puzzle both items were level 40, the maximum appropriate level for that zone. You may want to do some research before blatantly calling someone out for being wrong ;)
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One note about Cairns and Puzzles, each Zone reward is a level range based on the zone it's in. For example Freemarch Cairns and it's puzzle will not give a level 50 item if you wait until 50 to do it, it will however give you the highest BoE Green, Blue or Purple for that Zone level range


False.

I did the Silverwood Puzzle at level 30 and got a level 30 Purple. I did it about 3 weeks ago and I haven't heard anything that says they changed the mechanic. The rewards scale with your level and they are usually pretty **** good, so you can eitehr use them yourself or sell them on the AH for good money because they're not bind on pickup.


Delindsay is right. Rewards are scaled to the zone. If I go do the freemarch ones at 50 I'll receive an item based on the max zone level. Which don't quote me, I think freemarch is max level 30. So you'd get a 30 blue/green/epic what have you.
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There is a cap to the maximum level for an item reward for a puzzle. As stated, Freemarch/Silverwood cap is 30. I personally prefer to wait until I'm near or at the cap to do the puzzles if I'm aiming for gear I might want to use. By the time you get up to the Droughtlands/Moonshade puzzles, I personally prefer to just hold off until 50 to do them. I got a nice level 50 epic dagger for my rogue from the Shimmersands puzzle.

If you wait until level 50 to do all of them, a lot of the rewards you get will reflect the level cap for that particular puzzle which means you're not likely going to want to use it yourself but it can be something nice to pass off to an alt or sell. I got a level 30 epic sword doing the Silverwood puzzle on my warrior that lasted my rogue until the early 40s.
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Is there a section on ZAM Rift dedicated for these elusive treasures and puzzles?
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#16 Apr 15 2011 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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delindsay90210 wrote:
I'm definitely right on this,
It's good to be confident in life, but not too confident. I did the Silverwood puzzle with my cleric when he was L28. I got a L30 purple reward. I don't know what that proves since it was actually higher level than my cleric at the time. I did it with two other toons and got a level appropriate reward, both blue (L20 and L24).

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delindsay90210 wrote:
I'm definitely right on this,
It's good to be confident in life, but not too confident. I did the Silverwood puzzle with my cleric when he was L28. I got a L30 purple reward. I don't know what that proves since it was actually higher level than my cleric at the time. I did it with two other toons and got a level appropriate reward, both blue (L20 and L24).



I think that may show, at least in some fashion, that the rewards are independent of character level and scale with the zone.
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Is there a section on ZAM Rift dedicated for these elusive treasures and puzzles?

There is a puzzle page that links to all the achievements. Most of the achievements have walkthroughs.. I believe only a couple of them are missing at this point. Smiley: nod
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There is a cap to the maximum level for an item reward for a puzzle. As stated, Freemarch/Silverwood cap is 30.

I can verify this, I did it yesterday.

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Is there a section on ZAM Rift dedicated for these elusive treasures and puzzles?

There is a puzzle page that links to all the achievements. Most of the achievements have walkthroughs.. I believe only a couple of them are missing at this point. Smiley: nod


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Thanks, Cyliena!
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#21 Apr 15 2011 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
I'm level 43 and I've almost filled in all the map with exploration. I have not encountered a single puzzle. Weird.
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Silverwood/Freemarch caps at 30. Most of the rest cap at 35, excepting the L50 areas which are 50. Cairns cap similarly for rewards.

I did *all* the puzzles last night at 50. Sold all the blues for a decent plat.
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I'm level 43 and I've almost filled in all the map with exploration. I have not encountered a single puzzle. Weird.


The puzzles are almost all in out-of-the-way areas. Even if you know where the puzzle is, sometimes half the process is just finding out how to get to that spot on the map. Some are easy (Silverwood and Freemarch/Lake of Solace). Some are a bit more involved. The puzzles are always in the same place. Well worth finding and doing.
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Well I feel like an ***....

I was going off my experiences as well, and I was over leveled when I did the puzzles in Silverwood, Gloamwood and Scarlet Gorge and the items I received were appropriate for my level, not the level of the zone. That doesn't really mean anything in the course of this discussion, I guess, since I've been proven wrong (and dumb.../shrug).
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Well I feel like an ***....

I was going off my experiences as well, and I was over leveled when I did the puzzles in Silverwood, Gloamwood and Scarlet Gorge and the items I received were appropriate for my level, not the level of the zone. That doesn't really mean anything in the course of this discussion, I guess, since I've been proven wrong (and dumb.../shrug).


Basically you were half-right. The items do scale, as long as you are in the scaled range. You just happened to never be out of the scaled range when you did them.
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I decided to make a suicide run up to the SR Puzzle and Cairn on my now level 20 Rogue to see what they had to offer (oddly enough I didn't die once) and here are some facts I can now say about all zones:


Freemarch (probably Silverwood also): Min level items 15 - verified (Max 30 - verified)

Stonefield (probably Gloamwood also): Min level items 20 - verified (Max 35 - verified)

Scarlet Gorge: Min level items unverified (Max 35 - verified)

Scarwood Reach: Min level items 25 - verified (Max 40 - verified)

Moonshade Highlands: Min level items 30 - verified (Max unverified)

Droughtlands: Min level items 30 - verified (Max unverified)

Iron Peak Pine: Min level items 35 - verified (Max 50 - verified)

Shimmersand: Min level items 35 - verified (Max 50 - verified)

Stillmoor: Min level items 35 - verified (Max 50 - verified)


As I have the time I will continue to check the higher level zones with my much lower level rogue to verify lowest level items per zone, but will have to wait until I have another 50 to check the highest level items for unverified zones as my current 50 did all but SR/IPP/SS/SM while level appropriate, those 4 I did at 50. It "appears" that the commonality is that each zone has a min/max of 15 levels but until the rest are verified I cannot say for sure.


**Apparently Trion changed things in or around patch 1.2, you now have to be of the level range to even open "A Dusty Sack" as when I did the IPP one today 16May on my 23 Rogue the sack has a min level req of 35 to open.

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I'll add that Droughtlands has a minimum of 30. I have read that the max is 45, but I can't verify that.

I did both the puzzle (easy) and the cairn (ugh) on a level 8 rogue, and came up with a level 30 epic Noble Hood of the Sinister and a level 30 rare Infantry Dagger of Fortune.

Also confirmed: minimum of Scarwood puzzle and cairn are 25 (lvl 25 epic Fine Breeches of the Sinister from the puzzle and some crappy lvl 25 green from the cairn)


Also, the cairns that I did in Lake of Solace all yielded level 15 items. Based on that, and the ranges you list, it might be safe to extrapolate that there is a 15 level range for all puzzles and cairns.


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I haven't done a bunch of these on my 50 warrior, I'll see if I can get to them this weekend and report the results
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Is there a section on ZAM Rift dedicated for these elusive treasures and puzzles?


http://rift.zam.com/wiki/Ancient_Cairns_(Rift)

http://rift.zam.com/wiki/Puzzles_(Rift)



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K ty, updated my post. As I or any of you verify the min/max I will update what I wrote for all to see, once it's complete for all Zones I will add to each Zone's Puzzle section here on Zam the verified min/max items.
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#31 Apr 23 2011 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
Still haven't found any puzzles.
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Still haven't found any puzzles.


Well did you check Bludwyng's link on puzzles? Because it seems like most of them have locations listed
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Still haven't found any puzzles.


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K ty, updated my post. As I or any of you verify the min/max I will update what I wrote for all to see, once it's complete for all Zones I will add to each Zone's Puzzle section here on Zam the verified min/max items.

Thanks for the great information all. :) I just updated our Puzzle guide with your findings, looking forward to more! Smiley: smile

edit: I also changed our list to be alphabetized by zone.. I'm OCD like that. =\

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Oooo, love what you did with it I will try and verify the remaining zones as soon as I can ;)
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Oooo, love what you did with it I will try and verify the remaining zones as soon as I can ;)

Thanks, would definitely appreciate the info. :) Also did it with the Ancient Cairns page the other day if anyone knows our missing min/max loot levels for that one.
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Oooo, love what you did with it I will try and verify the remaining zones as soon as I can ;)

Thanks, would definitely appreciate the info. :) Also did it with the Ancient Cairns page the other day if anyone knows our missing min/max loot levels for that one.


Have there been instances when the Cairn loot differs in level than what is gained from the puzzles? Because if there hasn't been a difference then I would think it would be safe to assume that Cairn and puzzle loot levels are the same, yes, no, may be so?

Edit: Floor mats don't belong in that sentence!

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I can now confirm that Moonshade Highlands has a minimum item level of 30 and I updated my above post to reflect that. I'm working on others, it's just getting harder for my lowbie Rogue to get to some of them without repeated deaths lol. Next on my list is IPP which is going to be very rough for the cairn, and decently hard for the puzzle as both you have to weave through many mobs.
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I can now confirm that Moonshade Highlands has a minimum item level of 30 and I updated my above post to reflect that. I'm working on others, it's just getting harder for my lowbie Rogue to get to some of them without repeated deaths lol. Next on my list is IPP which is going to be very rough for the cairn, and decently hard for the puzzle as both you have to weave through many mobs.


If you are going to try the Cairn for IPP, I recommend waiting for a day when the server doesn't have the bandits, but that's personal preference. They way they roam really annoy me.

On the other hand, if you're going to go for the puzzle, if I remember correctly a Rift can pop up near the mob-filled area there. While it is up, it should make it easier to get up to the puzzle.
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Did SS and IPP with my 22/23 Rogue and changed my above post, both are 35 min. On an interesting side note, Trion must have changed on or around patch 1.2 the way they work. "A Dusty Sack" now has a minimum level req to open it, the min for that zone.
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delindsay90210 wrote:
Did SS and IPP with my 22/23 Rogue and changed my above post, both are 35 min. On an interesting side note, Trion must have changed on or around patch 1.2 the way they work. "A Dusty Sack" now has a minimum level req to open it, the min for that zone.

Thanks, updated the guide! I noticed the level reqs on the sacks as well when I was grabbing the Freemarch ancient cairns. :)

Now we're only missing min/max for Scarlet Gorge, min for Stillmoor and max for Stonefield. Unfortunately I already did the Stonefield one on both of my defiants early enough that they wouldn't have gotten the max, but was able to confirm a min of 20 there.

It does appear at this point that ancient cairns and puzzles in the same zone have the same min/max. Smiley: nod

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Stonefield max is 35.

Scarlet Gorge max is 35. Not sure the minimum.

I'd test the Stillmoor minimum but that one often awards a weapon of some type and I'm going to need good weapons at 50 with my rogue. Maybe I'll scoot out with my mage and try it just to see...

Edit: Stillmoor minimum is 35. There's also a rare bat that can spawn in the tower. He ate my 24 mage. Twice.

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ROFL, and ok I'll update my above post.
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I'm level 43 and I've almost filled in all the map with exploration. I have not encountered a single puzzle. Weird.


I think this illustrates the difference between just hitting the points to get the "Discovered XXX" and light the map and actually exploring.

FWIW I just did the Freemarch one with my level 24 and got a dusky bag with a min req of level 25. Which is a bit annoying. While standing on the cairn the zone above the minimap actually says "Stonefield".

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I'm level 43 and I've almost filled in all the map with exploration. I have not encountered a single puzzle. Weird.


Most of the time, getting to the puzzles is part of the challenge. They aren't on common travel paths. About the only one that players are likely to come across by fluke is the Silverwood puzzle, but it doesn't even seem like a puzzle. I found the plaque that ports you up to the tower during my first beta event and ported around for a while without any clue that it was a puzzle with the potential for a nice reward.

Some of the puzzles have very subtle clues as to their presence...the Scarwood Reach puzzle comes to mind. There's a fallen "log" ramp that hints at something up the hill. Others are the kinds of things you find by fluke after some crazy exploration or get the location of from guides.

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I think this illustrates the difference between just hitting the points to get the "Discovered XXX" and light the map and actually exploring.

FWIW I just did the Freemarch one with my level 24 and got a dusky bag with a min req of level 25. Which is a bit annoying. While standing on the cairn the zone above the minimap actually says "Stonefield".


Ya, the Silverwood cairn is also very close to being in Moonshade Highlands (but not quite) and I actually saw a guide where someone suggested you go through Moonshade to get to it. Which would be dumb for a level 30 character to attempt when it's not necessary.
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Thanks again everyone! The only one that was missing was the Scarlet Gorge minimum. Looking at the other zones that have a max of 35, they all have a min of 20, so I think it's safe to say that the SG min is 20.

So the tables for the Puzzles and Ancient Cairns pages are now complete! Ya'll rock!! Cookies for all!

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Edited, May 18th 2011 1:55pm by Cyliena
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