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#1 Apr 18 2011 at 12:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've seen many complaints or comments in these and other forums about how hard it is to get a group or instance going, so a lot of people cry for LFG/LFD tool or just say they don't participate in that aspect of the game much but I don't understand why people are having such a hard time? I get that some server populations are lower than others and I realize that DPS will have a harder time finding groups because there are more of them, but on a Medium Pop server during on and off hours I haven't had trouble really getting a group together in more than about 5 - 10 mins (in fact that is often faster than some other games LFG/LFD systems). Hopefully that's not what is bothering players and for those of you just spamming LFG and not taking some initiative to make a group then I don't have any sympathy for you.

  • Start out by offering up your LFG services and watch all the level or zone channels for call outs. If other players or roles are calling out, even if you and they are just DPSers, take leadership and start inviting. I can't tell you how many times I just took over on setting up a group for an instance I haven't even been in because others where calling out and no one was starting it. Even if you only had 3 dpsers to start out it shouldn't take too long to find an tank and healer. After you have formed the group you can hand over leadership to someone who has more experience with the instance if you want.

  • Play with friends or Guildmates. OK, so not everyone is in a guild or has consistent online friends to group up with but trust me, its not that hard to find either in an MMO! I find that if one of my friends or guildmates are online it is much easier to get a group, because we pre-group with more of the necessary roles (tank, healer) but see the point above if you are a loner.


  • Set up multiple roles. The calling/soul system in this game is such that you can fill multiple roles with every calling so don't be afraid to at least dual spec (only 30 gold) into another more useful role. Pure tanks and healers are already obvious, but rogues can tank (Riftstalker) and bring major buff and minor heal support along with DPS (Bard). Mages can be pretty viable healers or at least back up healers (Chloromancer). Warriors can do melee and ranged dps, although they will be much more valuable as a tank. And clerics can do just about all of the roles. Even if you love you spec there is going to be a better chance to get into a group if you announce 2 possible roles (i.e. DPS and backup healer/support)

  • Finally this last bullet is for the people leading/setting up the groups - stop being so darned picky. If you ask for a role and that person volunteers for it, give them the benefit of the doubt. Don't be nitpicky by asking what their spec is, what gear they have, blah, blah, blah. PVE Instance leveling from 1 - 50 doesn't require that much scrutinizing and if you think it does then you probably shouldn't be leading the instance. Let people join, first come first serve and make the best of it. If for some reason someone is really not pulling their weight, understanding your instruction, or playing horribly wrong for their calling then be nice about it and give them some pointers on fixing their game then politely remove them from the party. If they are really sore about it for any reason you can always /ignore them. Later on you can be more serious about the T1/T2 runs, but hopefully by then people are doing it with a trusted group of friend or guildies so then you won't have to worry about pugging.

  • Now having said all this I do understand that if you happen to be on a low pop server during off-peak hours and wanting to run the least favorite instance in the game so far then chances are things will be tougher. But people have to stop complaining about NEVER being able to get groups because I bet that over 80% of those wouldn't have an issue if they just took the initiative to set them up themselves and you can be doing other stuff while doing it because the instance auto summons everyone there as long as one person gets in... it works beautifully!

    Later.
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    #2 Apr 18 2011 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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    jocool32 wrote:

  • Start out by offering up your LFG services and watch all the level or zone channels for call outs. If other players or roles are calling out, even if you and they are just DPSers, take leadership and start inviting. I can't tell you how many times I just took over on setting up a group for an instance I haven't even been in because others where calling out and no one was starting it. Even if you only had 3 dpsers to start out it shouldn't take too long to find an tank and healer. After you have formed the group you can hand over leadership to someone who has more experience with the instance if you want.

  • Play with friends or Guildmates. OK, so not everyone is in a guild or has consistent online friends to group up with but trust me, its not that hard to find either in an MMO! I find that if one of my friends or guildmates are online it is much easier to get a group, because we pre-group with more of the necessary roles (tank, healer) but see the point above if you are a loner.


  • Finally this last bullet is for the people leading/setting up the groups - stop being so darned picky. If you ask for a role and that person volunteers for it, give them the benefit of the doubt. Don't be nitpicky by asking what their spec is, what gear they have, blah, blah, blah. PVE Instance leveling from 1 - 50 doesn't require that much scrutinizing and if you think it does then you probably shouldn't be leading the instance. Let people join, first come first serve and make the best of it. If for some reason someone is really not pulling their weight, understanding your instruction, or playing horribly wrong for their calling then be nice about it and give them some pointers on fixing their game then politely remove them from the party. If they are really sore about it for any reason you can always /ignore them. Later on you can be more serious about the T1/T2 runs, but hopefully by then people are doing it with a trusted group of friend or guildies so then you won't have to worry about pugging.


  • Thank you for being sane. I have gotten into at least a dozen instances by grabbing th 2 other dpsers going solo and putting a group together looking for only 2 people rather than 3 groups of 4.

    I really hate when people believe their group comp way is the only way to complete an instance. Yes sometimes it is the only way to complete an instance in 20 minutes. If you don't spend an hour turning people away you could have done it in an hour and 15 minutes and still have gained time while u looked for your perfect group though.

    And on guilds. Sometimes there are issues. If you get on at weird hours you get the awkward all the healers got on 20 minutes ago and got swiped up. But don't be afraid to ask your friends if THEY know somebody. People seem to be afraid to ask their friends to help out.

    Don't forget you can add notes to your friends list to remind you what roles they play and how well. (I have a few people on my friends list so that I know to ignore them.)

    And on a note. Healers are impossible to get in this game despite the fact that 2 of 4 callings can heal. If you are a cleric or mage and can 'never get into an instance' make a healing role. No, I am not saying you have to heal because you're one of these because you don't but if you refuse to you have no right to complain.
    #3 Apr 21 2011 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
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    This is a good guide. +5stars from me.

    But at the same time, my first time through on my cleric, yeah it was easy to use those skills to form groups.
    But, on Galena, for the past few days now that i am running through with 3 alts, i find most of the people are also on alts and so busy with leveling with tunnel vision on quests, we just dont form very many pugs anymore. I have seen ppl LF a tank for a grp for hours, a healer for hours etc and it makes me scratch my head a little. And those ppl have the rest of the group setup. I personally have sat there with 4 ppl LF 1 more, lately thinking to myself" whats going on? why is this so different than last month?".

    But that being said i am sure there are a ton of factors involved.
    #4 Apr 23 2011 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
    jocool32 wrote:
    .....take leadership and start inviting. .....


    No, I don't think so. LFG tool ftw.
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