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#1 Apr 23 2011 at 9:06 AM Rating: Sub-Default
There is nothing for lvl 50's to do but close RIFTs http://www.g4tv.com/videos/51369/rift-endgame-walkthrough-greenscales-blight-zone/ which takes getting together a guild party. Do I have to go into why getting a guild party together is ridiculously hard/inconvenient for most??? I'm so not into looking everywhere for artifacts. There has to be more end game for solo players, Trion. Everyone is quitting at level 50 and going to play other games. I know I am.
#2 Apr 23 2011 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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The fact of the matter is the term MMORPG means Massively-Multiplayer Online RPG

Being able to solo your way to max level and being able to solo minor rifts AT max level is pretty much what you get for solo content. If you want to accomplish more than that you're going to need some friends.

Or I suppose you could just do it again by rolling alts and leveling those to max level (where you still need friends to accomplish more stuff)
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#3 Apr 23 2011 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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They will be adding Dungeon Finder soon so that will help you out I guess.
#4 Apr 23 2011 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Rift = MMORPG, if you want to solo end game content go play Oblivion or any other single player Fantasy game. There is no reason for Trion or any other game publisher to make end game content soloable, that's why it's called Massively Multiplayer. I have played 2 previous MMO's, Eve Online and WoW, neither of those have soloable end game content (though it's tough to define end game for Eve) and I know for a fact Final Fantasy is the same way, I'm sure Guild Wars and others are too.
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#6 Apr 25 2011 at 5:18 AM Rating: Default
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#7 Apr 25 2011 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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There are tons of daily quests to do. Enough to keep you busy doing nothing but solo content every day. Unless you have no job of course...
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#8 Apr 25 2011 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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I'm only 49 and I already am finding tons of things to do. Between pvping, foraging and mining, playing the AH with low level mats, crafting weapons to sell, questing, doing dungeons, perfecting and theorycrafting pvp specs, and artifact hunting, there is quite a bit to do.
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ArexLovesPie wrote:
I'm only 49 and I already am finding tons of things to do. Between pvping, foraging and mining, playing the AH with low level mats, crafting weapons to sell, questing, doing dungeons, perfecting and theorycrafting pvp specs, and artifact hunting, there is quite a bit to do.


Yeah there is a lot to do, though some people still belive that they should be able to get everything in an MMORPG solo...which really defeats the MM part.
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The One and Only SgtFrog wrote:
ArexLovesPie wrote:
I'm only 49 and I already am finding tons of things to do. Between pvping, foraging and mining, playing the AH with low level mats, crafting weapons to sell, questing, doing dungeons, perfecting and theorycrafting pvp specs, and artifact hunting, there is quite a bit to do.


Yeah there is a lot to do, though some people still belive that they should be able to get everything in an MMORPG solo...which really defeats the MM part.
I love soloing in Rift, and I enjoyed solo leveling a loooot more than leveling in a group, and while I understand the basic necessity of an MMO needing to be primarily multiplayer content, I love that Rift actually does have pretty challenging solo content at 50. ****, if you work at it, and put some thought into what you're doing, there are quite a few of the Group (2-3) dailies that can be solo'd. Not easily, and not quickly, but they can be.
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#11 Apr 26 2011 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I think the OP would be happier playing a single-player game.
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I agree with the OP, I think. I don't think that there needs to be soloable end game content like what we have now, raids and dungeons and such. But on nights where the PVP queue is taking over an hour, no one wants to run dungeons, and all your useful dailies are done, I need something to do. A minigame or something; a poker table, horseraces, beach volleyball, anything. I don't need something to give me awesome gear, just something to kill time. I can't tab out because for some reason the queue pop noise doesn't play when on another window, so I can either watch TV or runebreak til my eyes bleed. I'm hoping dungeon finder and the new stuff will help keep me occupied.
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#13 Apr 27 2011 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Lady Jinte wrote:
The One and Only SgtFrog wrote:
ArexLovesPie wrote:
I'm only 49 and I already am finding tons of things to do. Between pvping, foraging and mining, playing the AH with low level mats, crafting weapons to sell, questing, doing dungeons, perfecting and theorycrafting pvp specs, and artifact hunting, there is quite a bit to do.


Yeah there is a lot to do, though some people still belive that they should be able to get everything in an MMORPG solo...which really defeats the MM part.
I love soloing in Rift, and I enjoyed solo leveling a loooot more than leveling in a group, and while I understand the basic necessity of an MMO needing to be primarily multiplayer content, I love that Rift actually does have pretty challenging solo content at 50. ****, if you work at it, and put some thought into what you're doing, there are quite a few of the Group (2-3) dailies that can be solo'd. Not easily, and not quickly, but they can be.


Oh no nothing wrong with enjoying soling at all, I just find it odd when people want to be able to do and get everything solo :|.
#14 Apr 28 2011 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
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You want soloable end content? Go buy a console!
#15SilverGryphon, Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 6:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You want soloable end content? Go buy a console!
#16 Apr 28 2011 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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SilverGryphon wrote:
You want soloable end content? Go buy a console!


What the **** has that got to do with anything?
#17 Apr 28 2011 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about what MMORPGs are. For what its worth the "G" in that acronym stands for "Game" and not "Group". The word group does not appear anywhere.

Playing an MMO solo is a perfectly acceptable playstyle and as the saying goes - "its your $/£/€ anyway".

Some people, myself included, like the environment they provide with a player-driven economy and people to interact with. At the same time grouping is an optional activity. Thank god that Rift (and WoW before it) no longer require you to find a group before you can accomplish anything. This frees me to go hunting artefacts or climbing mountains or whatever I feel like doing.

However - and its a big however -
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that this means I'm not going to see group or raid content unless I join those structures. I will not get the rewards etc unless I subscribe to the mechanisms that provide them. I've done my share of raiding and I know the effort and discipline that is required to achieve results.

When a game starts providing the same or similar rewards for totally different levels of input then it is going bad. If the solo player is required to devote a similar amount of effort - eg over a longer period - rep grinding etc to get a reward then maybe that is balanced.

What no game can afford to do is recognise that people are soloing to top level and getting bored, perhaps even cancelling subs, and start panicky giveaways whose end result is to disenchant the people who have put in the effort. Those people, by virtue of being far more a part of the community than a solo player, are what hold a game together.
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