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#1 May 17 2011 at 5:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's been a source of frustration for me since I started playing Rift that I can't bind my mousewheel to something other than zoom in and out. Then tonight I realized that with my Razer Naga I can do the following with my Rift profile:

- Make a macro that just presses a key, say comma.
- Bind the scroll up function to that macro, so moving my mousewheel up is interpreted as pressing the comma key.
- Bind one of the side buttons to scroll up, so pressing that button is interpreted as moving my mousewheel up.
- Go into Rift, bind the ability of my choice to "comma."
- Press the aforementioned side button I whenever I want to zoom in.
- Repeat similar steps for mousewheel down and scroll down.
- Profit.

I don't know if other gaming mice can do something similar, but just thought I'd share.
#2 May 17 2011 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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That's what I did with my n52te too since it has a scroll wheel on it. Except I used PgUp and PgDn as my binds. Worked really well for Aion, though I honestly haven't used that binding since then; just can't seem to find a reason to need it.
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#3 May 18 2011 at 8:57 AM Rating: Good
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What would you bind to scrolling that wouldn't be easier with the side button? Maybe it's just me but it's harder to use the mouse wheel than it is to hit the side buttons.
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#4 May 18 2011 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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Vataro wrote:
What would you bind to scrolling that wouldn't be easier with the side button? Maybe it's just me but it's harder to use the mouse wheel than it is to hit the side buttons.


Yeah I tend to agree here.

In Aion I wanted two more binds to handle toggling flight mode for my character.

In general though, bindings on the mouse wheel tend to just be awkward to use. My mouse has five buttons, my n52 has 60 keybinds on it... that's plenty
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#5 May 18 2011 at 12:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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When it comes to my bindings I'm very... um, I have a spreadsheet. I can't put abilities on the side buttons. That's just against the plan. I could never sleep.

G13 keys are for spells only.

G13 thumb thingie is for movement only (forward, back, strafe left and right, mount).

Naga side buttons are for utility only (shift, control, jump, various targeting functions, autorun, zoom, esc).

And mouse wheel is for one instant heal, preferably a HoT (scroll down) and one instant offensive spell, preferably a DoT (scroll up), so can I move, cycle through targets, and cast all at once with my right hand, while eating Oreos with my left.

(Edit:okay the Oreo part is not strictly true, as I still need my left thumb to move.)

Edited, May 18th 2011 2:11pm by teacake
#6 May 18 2011 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty similar. I'm an altaholic (in WoW, Aion, and now Rift I just play everything.. every class) so it became pretty crucial for me to standardize my keymappings between characters so I wouldn't always have a massive learning curve when switching between them. I few specific tendencies became law for me:

1, 2, and 3 are main rotational abilities, 2 should be an instant if it's a caster
5 is always a ground target AoE or a cleave on classes that don't have targeted AoE
7 is always an interrupt
8 is always a snare
- and = are utility abilities, preferably ranged. If I have a charge or some other ability that makes me "Go over to the guy I'm targeting" it's on =
Zero and its various modifiers are always long cooldowns (3 minutes minimum)

Shift modifier is for debuffs
Ctrl modifier is for finishers, or at least things that behave that way.. Charge-using moves on my Rift mage for instance
Alt modifier is for buffs
Alt+3 is always a personal short-term defensive buff. This was my Water Shield button on my shaman in WoW and I used to press it obsessively because it would fall off all the time
Ctrl+Alt modifier is for misc utility
Ctrl+Alt+2 is always a ground mount
Ctrl+Alt+- is always a "Take me home" button
Ctrl+Alt+= is always a res
Ctrl+Alt+9 is always food/drink

Click casting for those types of interfaces has an entirely different set of rules, though I still try to keep them pretty standard between characters since I always use the same interface elements on all of them.

BTW if those seem like strange buttons, my n52 is laid out like so:

 
Shft 1 2 3 - 
Ctrl 4 5 6 = 
Alt  7 8 9 | 
           | Tab 
              L 
             D U 
              R 
           <zero> 


EDIT: Forgot to rotate the n52 arrows 90 degrees.. the Up arrow points toward my screen so it makes sense in this orientation

Edited, May 18th 2011 2:29pm by Callinon
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#7 May 18 2011 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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I just bought a razer naga. I suddenly don't need mouse wheel anymore.
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#8 May 18 2011 at 5:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
I'm pretty similar. I'm an altaholic (in WoW, Aion, and now Rift I just play everything.. every class) so it became pretty crucial for me to standardize my keymappings between characters so I wouldn't always have a massive learning curve when switching between them.


The problem I run into is that they become so similarly organized that I start confusing abilities between characters. The number of times I've hit the Pain Suppression key in a moment of panic on my Rift cleric is soaring into the hundreds. Thankfully I now have Healer's Covenant to put where Pain Suppression goes. :) It's even worse between Rift classes because I switch characters every 10 minutes and my mage and cleric have a lot of similar abilities in similar places. But sometimes not similar enough to stop me from mashing a button 50 times while watching my health going down and wondering why the right thing isn't casting.

And I don't know a single WoW druid who hasn't jumped off the top of something high and hit their flight form key... on an alt.
#9 May 25 2011 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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I assign my interrupt to my mouse wheel up on any character that interrupts very often. I use a G500 mouse and a G110 keyboard so I don't have -that- many extra buttons. And its not like I ever need to scroll in and out of my camera...
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#10 May 26 2011 at 9:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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teacake wrote:
When it comes to my bindings I'm very... um, I have a spreadsheet. I can't put abilities on the side buttons. That's just against the plan. I could never sleep.

G13 keys are for spells only.

G13 thumb thingie is for movement only (forward, back, strafe left and right, mount).

Naga side buttons are for utility only (shift, control, jump, various targeting functions, autorun, zoom, esc).

And mouse wheel is for one instant heal, preferably a HoT (scroll down) and one instant offensive spell, preferably a DoT (scroll up), so can I move, cycle through targets, and cast all at once with my right hand, while eating Oreos with my left.

(Edit:okay the Oreo part is not strictly true, as I still need my left thumb to move.)


You've already got autorun bound to a naga key... chow down. That left hand should have pleanty of free time.

Edited, May 26th 2011 11:37am by mdelevie
#11 May 26 2011 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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mdelevie wrote:

You've already got autorun bound to a naga key... chow down. That left hand should have pleanty of free time.


Oooh good point. You have improved my quality of life.
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