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#1 Dec 31 2011 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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I just updated Rift after a little over a month away playing Skyrim and a bunch of other games. I bought a Razor Naga the same day I bought Skyrim but most of its functionality is lost on "games that are not MMOs" so I was (pleasantly) surprised to log in to Rift and start messing around for the first time.

Anyone else have one of these delicious meeses that they use for MMOs that can offer some ideas/tips? I know in the documentation, Razor estimates that it will take the "average" MMO gamer about 18 hours of gameplay to adjust to using it. One of the very first things I noticed, however, is that the higher dpi (relative to my previous mouse...a Microsoft cordless POS) means a much more responsive turning motion. I can spin a full 720 degrees with less mouse movement than I needed to do 360 degrees with my old mouse, and I haven't even bumped up the dpi (yet >:D)

I get the feeling I'm going to have to redo my keybinds to make them more Naga-specific than keyboard specific if I want to get the most of it. My bindings make sense for the number row...not so much for a number-pad like setup.
#2 Jan 01 2012 at 12:03 AM Rating: Decent
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well, if u dont switch it to the numpad setting, the keypad on the side will automatically operate whatever buttons u have set to the strip above the letters(1 to =[- is 11, = is 12]). and if u set it like i do, i have the 2nd action bar set for Shift+1, Shift+2 and so on, works the same way. hold shift, press side button. i know u can set mouse specific macros from the setup window, nvr messed with it. also, the little rubber nubs that came with the mouse REALLY heal u get used to the side buttons

Edited, Jan 1st 2012 1:05am by joshiki
#3 Jan 01 2012 at 12:45 AM Rating: Good
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Seems like it'd be the best thing in the entire world for an actionbar containing nothing but mouseover macros
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#4 Jan 01 2012 at 12:52 AM Rating: Decent
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joshiki wrote:
well, if u dont switch it to the numpad setting, the keypad on the side will automatically operate whatever buttons u have set to the strip above the letters(1 to =[- is 11, = is 12]). and if u set it like i do, i have the 2nd action bar set for Shift+1, Shift+2 and so on, works the same way. hold shift, press side button. i know u can set mouse specific macros from the setup window, nvr messed with it. also, the little rubber nubs that came with the mouse REALLY heal u get used to the side buttons



Ya, I'm pretty clear on the actual mechanics of how it works (as far as what I need to know to use it..I won't be engineering my own version any time soon). I'm mostly just looking for tips that people have found helpful. I guess more specifically something like, "5 is your new 1" or something like that. It definitely feels odd but at the same time I can see how it would be a real benefit once I get used to it.

Archmage Callinon wrote:
Seems like it'd be the best thing in the entire world for an actionbar containing nothing but mouseover macros


That's one use for it. In my case, I got it for access to more buttons in general. I find that I do, on occasion, omit marginally useful abilities from my action bars because I just don't have room to fit everything comfortably even after using Alt+ modifiers and such to extend what I can do with the keys I can reach.

I learned tonight that navigating at 4000dpi is not easy. For slight corrections it's not bad. For turning to navigate through doors and up narrow ramps and stuff, it's pretty rough. I'm running in the right direction and a little nudge and BAM! I'm in a wall. Or a tree. Or running the opposite direction I intended after spinning a full circle.

Ya, toned that down a bit <.<

Seems like I just have to fiddle a bit and then take a character out into the world and mess around. I think my mage or cleric is a prime candidate, seeing as how if I do anything right at all I wind up healing myself while trying to kill things anyways. I don't dare take my rogue into a warfront with the new mouse just yet...
#5 Jan 06 2012 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I use mine so that I can have a fourth actionbar bound. (NumPad, Q-],1-=,F1-F12) The only character in any game that I've ever needed all of those buttons on is my WoW Hunter, (My RIFT warrior can come close depending on which spec and whether I feel like using macros) but its nice to be able to have so much stuff within easy reach.
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#6 Jan 06 2012 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
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emallson wrote:
I use mine so that I can have a fourth actionbar bound. (NumPad, Q-],1-=,F1-F12) The only character in any game that I've ever needed all of those buttons on is my WoW Hunter, (My RIFT warrior can come close depending on which spec and whether I feel like using macros) but its nice to be able to have so much stuff within easy reach.


I spent a little time on my cleric running around trying to get a feel for it and ran into a couple of distinct problems. First was that I had been playing a fair amount of Bastion, and my favorite primary weapon in Bastion is the Cael Hammer. So when I log in to Rift with my cleric who also uses a giant hammer, I found that I was chasing mobs around mashing the left mouse button trying to swing my hammer...

The other difficulty I encountered was that my cleric's build is intended for PvP and as such, her UI is stripped down and her primary attack macro takes care of pretty much any basic combat situation with the extra keybind slots reserved for things you don't encounter a lot while questing to level up in a solo PvE environment. I don't want to jump right into a warfront as a level 33 cleric and take up a spot spinning in circles making a fool of myself until I've got a better grasp on it, but so far it feels like it will be a pretty intuitive setup once I get used to it.
#7 Jan 25 2012 at 6:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm coming late to this discussion, but I used a Naga for a long time, and tried a bunch of configurations over several months. In the end my preferred setup was to bind the Naga keys to non-ability functions, thus freeing up my left hand on the keypad for 100% spells in easy reach (I navigated using my G15's thumb thingie and the mouse).

With that setup, my twelve Naga buttons were bound to:

Shift, Ctrl, and Esc
Targeting (self, enemy, friendly)
Jump
Autorun
Bags
Map
Zoom (in and out)


I'm not playing any MMO's right now so I plugged my MX518 back in - always the most comfortable mouse for me.

Still constantly casting spells in Skyrim when all I wanted to do was turn. :)
#8 Jan 25 2012 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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teacake wrote:
I'm coming late to this discussion, but I used a Naga for a long time, and tried a bunch of configurations over several months. In the end my preferred setup was to bind the Naga keys to non-ability functions, thus freeing up my left hand on the keypad for 100% spells in easy reach (I navigated using my G15's thumb thingie and the mouse).

With that setup, my twelve Naga buttons were bound to:

Shift, Ctrl, and Esc
Targeting (self, enemy, friendly)
Jump
Autorun
Bags
Map
Zoom (in and out)


I'm not playing any MMO's right now so I plugged my MX518 back in - always the most comfortable mouse for me.

Still constantly casting spells in Skyrim when all I wanted to do was turn. :)


Thanks for the tips ;D I haven't invested any time in Rift trying to get used to the new mouse since my last hilariously botched adventures on my cleric. I still find the new mouse a bit daunting but I don't regret buying it. I was using a cordless mouse with a really awful super-basic corded mouse for backup when the cordless mouse' battery needed charging. The cordless mouse was comfortable, but dead batteries = D:< The naga is very comfortable, but I've been having a hard time deciding how to even start getting used to it, but you've given me a few ideas.

I think my biggest deterrent right now is that most of my time in Rift when I do play it is spent in PvP, and there's no way I'd shame myself by hopping into a warfront and playing the way I was on my cleric that one day. The idea of spending hours upon hours on a target dummy tweaking setups and then bombing around the open world practicing for hours is a bit off-putting.
#9 Jan 25 2012 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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You don't need to go to those lengths. Just get it set up on the test dummy, then go do EI dailies for practice. By the time you're done, either your armor will be broken or you'll be getting used to your mouse.

(I got mine before I started Rift, and I went to WoW's current daily hub and did that to get used to it.)

Edited, Jan 25th 2012 9:53am by emallson
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#10 Jan 25 2012 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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emallson wrote:
You don't need to go to those lengths. Just get it set up on the test dummy, then go do EI dailies for practice. By the time you're done, either your armor will be broken or you'll be getting used to your mouse.

(I got mine before I started Rift, and I went to WoW's current daily hub and did that to get used to it.)


My rogue is too squishy to manage EI if I'm not triggering my abilities appropriately. Not enough self healing to make up for the clubbing I take. When I'm playing with my normal keybinds and I'm familiar with what I'm doing, I have no difficulty at all but I still have to stop and drink regularly. If you could have seen me bombing around on my cleric that day you'd understand ;D
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